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[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 132 points 1 year ago (7 children)

If you knew absolutely nothing about anything just looking at the GOPs stance on Russia 30 years ago to now, shows you immediately how full of shit and propaganda the party is.

They've literally gone from fuck the reds to sucking Putins cock.

A complete 180 on their "values", without even flinching...

[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Yes, I believe they are called traitors.

[–] RocksForBrains@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Better dead than red.

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[–] NewEnglandRedshirt@lemmy.world 83 points 1 year ago (40 children)

NATO WAS BUILT SPECIFICALLY TO OPPOSE RUSSIA, MORON!

Who says Russia can't join in on that goal? /j

[–] gammasfor@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

In fairness, in the very early 2000s, before it became obvious Russia was just going to continue being a dick, Russia was on the path of becoming a NATO ally.

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[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But he also fucks kids, so maybe his opinion isn’t worth much huh?

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Makes you wonder about what's in his blackmail file that keeps him so willing to be a Kremlin mouthpiece.

[–] Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I bet he's just being paid with money and fresh kids every month.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

Traitorous scumbag.

[–] YellowtoOrange@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this an alternative fuxking timeline we're in?

Do republicans WANT to be seen as traitorous evil dixkheads? They seem to think they can spin anything and their idiot supporters will believe it, and, after trump, they're probably right.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's pretty insidious. I've seen Republicans wearing shirts that say things like, "I'd rather be Russian than Democrat."

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm old enough to remember when the right was saying "better dead than red" (referring to the Soviet Union, not to "red/Republicans"). They went from "better dead than red" to "better Russian than Democrat" scarily quickly.

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That’s why Russia is putting up an internet-wide firewall. They know how effective they’ve been at weakening their enemies by manipulating conversations on the internet. They nearly took down our whole country not too long ago. And they are still dangerously close, as seen in the above story.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's because they are against "Communism", whatever that means, but the modern Russian state is seen by them as a model Capitalist country. They're more likely to consider someone from San Francisco a Communist than someone from Russia.

It's an Oligarchy, of course, but they see themselves as Oligarchs-in-training.

[–] SmashingSquid@notyour.rodeo 8 points 1 year ago

There's a bunch of people at the side of the road by the local mall every day with tons of flags and signs like "good bless America because Biden doesn't" and "defund 🇺🇦 refund 🇺🇸". Yet during protests by democrats they're all going on about how the democrats protesting must have no jobs and should be working instead of protesting.

[–] DreamerOfImprobableDreams@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Friendly reminder a significant portion of the Republican party has been in Putin's pocket since at least 2016!

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

1980s. Trump never said or did anything about politics until he went to Russia in 1987.

The top level of the Soviet diplomatic service arranged his 1987 Moscow visit. With assistance from the KGB. It took place while Kryuchkov was seeking to improve the KGB's operational techniques in one particular and sensitive area. The spy chief wanted KGB staff abroad to recruit more Americans.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/19/trump-first-moscow-trip-215842/

Trump ran for president shortly after in 1987-88.

1989 he took out a full page ad to publicize the case and called for the death of the central park five, now known as the exonerated five, as they were innocent.

Wonder what the Russians said to him.

They got Steven Seagal, Rudy Giuliani, a bunch of others. All are Republicans, including Tulsi Gabbard and RFK.

Traitors to America, each.

E: Czech Espionage campaign against Trump began in 1977. Ivana Trump was investigated for years by the FBI as a spy. Trump's phones were tapped and letters read by Czech intelligence. Wonder what compromising information they learned. https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/soviet-linked-spies-targeted-trump-after-he-married-ivana-knowing-he-wanted-to-be-president-one-day/

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gaetz is on par mentally with Boebert and MGT. Is China really building a secret military base in Cuba? Not so secret now, I guess, unless it's supposed to be common knowledge and he didn't just let slip a piece of national security.

[–] Trashcanman@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 1 year ago

He clearly doesn’t know what NATO is or why it exists

[–] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

The amount of double speak from this guy is insane

[–] donuts@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

In that case, imagine how much long term benefit China could bring.

[–] REdOG@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The redcoats are cumming

[–] blue_zephyr@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How would that even work? Then we'll have to deal with figuring out what to do when "allies" attack other members.

[–] paintbucketholder@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This would mean that Article 5 - the mutual defense clause - would come into effect whenever Russia manufactured a conflict claiming it was being attacked. So what then? America would have to send in its military in order to fight a war in Transnistria? America would have to commit troops to wage war in South Ossetia? America would have to defend Crimea against "attacks" from Ukraine?

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

They wanted to join NATO. NATO said no, and here we are.

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