Yeah sure it’s the machine’s fault, not the human’s /s
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But the theft is already done, shameful
I think the ex footballers themselves should stand up. Give them a proper referee training so they can sit in the VAR booth. With all their football experience they are better capable to make decisions than these guys who have never kicked a ball. Of course you’re not gonna see the starplayer multi miljonair ex player doing this but there must be a ton of ex players looking for a job that they know all about.
I highly doubt the great minds of Paul Merson and John Hartson would improve the officiating. Some footballers are thick as fuck and know little of the sport they played for nearly 2 decades.
Fucking hell, VAR isn’t doing too well, is it? When I first saw this headline, I was like “I didn’t realise people are still talking about that Newcastle vs Arsenal game, that was weeks ago!” Oh, wait, they’re not.
No arsenal fans are still very much still whining about it down there
When you’re challenging Man City to a league, every point matters. When VAR causes a controversy, it’s an easy thing to blame
I really don’t see what you can’t understand about that. Who cares if Arsenal fans moan over it. I’ve seen more people moaning about Arteta, than Arteta did himself about the referees…
No we are laughing now as suddenly VAR is a joke to Newcastle.
It’s not VAR that’s not doing well. It’s the humans behind VAR who are messing it up.
Lmao. VAR is literally the human not the machine. Lol
Lmao. Everyone knows VAR stands for Human Assisted Referee. Lol
VAR is Video Assistant Referee. It’s the human that is the VAR. he uses the video to do his job.
Are you saying the Video is a referee?
Aww were you hoping the video would assist the match all on its own?
I see this happening 4-5 yrs down the line
Honest question. Why is it the VARs fault? His job is to alert the ref, and the ref then made the decision. The on-field referee should be getting blamed not the VAR. It’s the ref who makes the call.
Because the referee already knew that he had to favor Qatar, just like in the world cup final. He can't be punished because he did exactly what he was instructed to do.
How that information is shown to the ref is critical in the referee's decision making. Show them a frozen frame of a ball hitting someone in the hand and their decision is immediately altered because of that.
It's the same with red card situations. If you slow down the footage, freeze-frame it and show the worst possible angle that makes the challenge appear much worse than it actually is, then the referees decision can be altered significantly.
When the on field ref gets called over to the monitor it’s almost always going to get overturned. VAR knows this and going by the current rules, not by what is sensible, VAR should not prompt him to check again unless they are convinced of a clear and obvious error. This was one of the worst calls I’ve seen and it took shared incompetency to get there
I don't get this logic. I think the call for PSG is horrible (that should never be a handball) but such incidents have been consistently called for years now. I don't understand why Reddit has decided it was the worst call ever. If you think so, you aren't watching games every week where such calls happen all the time.
I strongly believe we need to change the handball rule. In particular, we should award indirect freekicks only unless it was fully deliberate (like Suarez at the WC). But again, the call on the PSG game was very much in line with calls we have seen every week over the last 2 years.
Because when a ref is called they feel pressured. He saw all the angles ans told the ref he was wrong, who caved. The ref got it right on field.
Ultimately its VAR's job not to intervene in that situation, so calling the ref over at all was a colossal mistake.
Yeah it's not good. Basically the referee defers to VAR, it's not supposed to happen like that but it always does.
Because it is much easier for VAR to not call the ref to the monitor, than it is for the ref to not give the penalty to PSG at PSG stadium in front of their crowd and owners.
Important to consider that a comparative situation happened earlier without VAR interference.
It is manipulative.
The ref really had one choice and that was to make the correct decision, which wasn't the right decision.
The question is where are they getting all these jokers from, if they are not ex referees or players then they shouldn’t be allowed to officiate imo
This isn’t anything to do with VAR. Ref needs to grow a set of balls and not be pressured into decisions.
I also stand down to urinate like all heterosapiens
The thing is var told him to go to the screen and the ref still gave it.
They need to figure out handball law 🤦♂️
Saudi United deserves it after bribing the refs in the Arsenal match. Oil is flowing.
And it wasn't even a hard decision. It was a very clear situation.
On the other hand, there was also a very clear handball by Newcastle earlier, but they didn't even check the var.
Hang on! The ref went to monitor did he not? Then he could also see it was wrong. He should have same punishment as VAR can only suggest overturn but not make ref do it. Var did miss a peno earlier where Gordon brought someone down tho so maybe that’s the reason and not this one
VAR is like communism, great in theory, but humans ruin it
I'm so confused. A few weeks back Liverpool had a last minute goal ruled out for a handball in the buildup, which was another case of the ball hitting the body first, and then the arm.
The explanation among fans was that there's not enough clarity in the handball rule currently to distinguish handballs that come off the body first don't count, which is annoying, but fine.
Happens again last night, and now the VAR is being stood down, which basically communicates that UEFA think something has gone wrong. So which is it? Are they going to address the rule change or not, they look like they've come into this season so unprepared. It wasn't like they hadn't been told it was recommended as an expansion to the handball rule back in April of this year.
The current handball rules are shite. It wont be long before players start aiming for arms in the penalty box on purpose.
Why is it just this ref or this decision? I'm not saying all refs should be getting demoted but why just this particular one? There have been countless mental decisions recently.
Marciniak and Kwiatkowski try be awalys a hero in Polish Ekstraklasa, nothing new :)
Oh man, they forgot to give the cut to the VAR ref. Now UEFA cannot cash in the check
Thing is the referee needs to stand up and say no that's not a penalty. Not just agree with VAR, he has control of the game, it's his decision. That was one of if not the worst penalties I've ever seen given in my life. I can't believe anybody who knows anything about football could give that decision especially watching it in slow motion on video replay. What a joke!
Oh how much more fair everything is with VAR. Love it. /s
At Coventry v Argyle last night the ball was over the goal line and out of play just before it was played back for a Coventry player to score. No VAR so we have to suck it. Evens.
Why do these associations come out and admit they're wrong? But can't amend a scoreline post-game?
Makes no difference to the result. Absolutely pointless.
It was not a good VAR decision to call to ask the ref to review, but if we all saw that it should not have been a penalty, and UEFA thinks that it wasn't a good call, why isn't the match ref punished? He made the final call.
Was there pressure from the corrupt journalist-murdering sportswahers to punish the refs who dared to make a call against their filthy oil-funded team? If so, that's a dangerous precedent.
I keep on saying for the past year - train an AI ref on several thousand proper calls. It would be a single entity making calls across leagues and tiers and comps.
Who selects the proper calls to train it on?
Me
Ah yes because technology is never informed by human bias
Sod off. This is still better than idiots making decisions.
It really isn't. You are just salty that people have pointed out the major issues in your half-baked suggestion