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[–] spandextim@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Honest question. Why is it the VARs fault? His job is to alert the ref, and the ref then made the decision. The on-field referee should be getting blamed not the VAR. It’s the ref who makes the call.

[–] nierama2019810938135@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Because it is much easier for VAR to not call the ref to the monitor, than it is for the ref to not give the penalty to PSG at PSG stadium in front of their crowd and owners.

Important to consider that a comparative situation happened earlier without VAR interference.

It is manipulative.

The ref really had one choice and that was to make the correct decision, which wasn't the right decision.

[–] MRJSP@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah it's not good. Basically the referee defers to VAR, it's not supposed to happen like that but it always does.

[–] stevehuffmagooch@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

When the on field ref gets called over to the monitor it’s almost always going to get overturned. VAR knows this and going by the current rules, not by what is sensible, VAR should not prompt him to check again unless they are convinced of a clear and obvious error. This was one of the worst calls I’ve seen and it took shared incompetency to get there

[–] MarginOfCorrectness@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

I don't get this logic. I think the call for PSG is horrible (that should never be a handball) but such incidents have been consistently called for years now. I don't understand why Reddit has decided it was the worst call ever. If you think so, you aren't watching games every week where such calls happen all the time.

I strongly believe we need to change the handball rule. In particular, we should award indirect freekicks only unless it was fully deliberate (like Suarez at the WC). But again, the call on the PSG game was very much in line with calls we have seen every week over the last 2 years.

[–] Chalkun@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Because when a ref is called they feel pressured. He saw all the angles ans told the ref he was wrong, who caved. The ref got it right on field.

Ultimately its VAR's job not to intervene in that situation, so calling the ref over at all was a colossal mistake.

[–] sabutilnik@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Because the referee already knew that he had to favor Qatar, just like in the world cup final. He can't be punished because he did exactly what he was instructed to do.

[–] Tomm1998@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

How that information is shown to the ref is critical in the referee's decision making. Show them a frozen frame of a ball hitting someone in the hand and their decision is immediately altered because of that.

It's the same with red card situations. If you slow down the footage, freeze-frame it and show the worst possible angle that makes the challenge appear much worse than it actually is, then the referees decision can be altered significantly.