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[–] LiquidParfait@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

TL’DR:

Apple- Blue

Everything else- green.

[–] SatsquatchTheHun@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Blue bubbles matter

[–] dropthemagic@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Lmao if you think they are getting rid of blue bubbles good luck lmao

[–] _pjanic@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Enjoy your green bubbles forever, you ‘Droiders.

[–] pixel_of_moral_decay@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I’m not sure iMessage and SMS/RCS will be allowed to be in the same app going forward in the EU at least.

My interpretation is that would be unfair under the proposed rules. Apple would need to make iMessage a separate app jailed the same way WhatsApp etc are or open up the API’s in such a way they can all integrate the same way.

I think this is more “for now”.

[–] ehsteve23@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

it really baffles me how many people care about the colour of text message bubbles

[–] saint_louis_bagels@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The color of the bubble isn't the problem. iMessage uses a green bubble as a indicator that your iMessages are being sent as SMS, which is an old, terrible standard.

Imagine if 90% of people used WhatsApp/Discord but 10% of people are using the default messaging app on their phone. Those 10% of people are causing you to have shitty video/picture messaging. No typing indicators. No read receipts. No delivery confirmation. No in-line replies. Now imagine if you're in a group chat with several people, but that ONE person causes ALL of you to have those limitations. The group would be pissed off at that one person. That's blue bubble/green bubble bullying.

[–] wirerc@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Be pissed at Apple, not your friends.

[–] VictorChristian@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

“RCS will be green”…

damn. I was hoping for Mauve.

[–] fjmj1980@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Haha all that push and regardless of protocols android really wanted the blue color and now they can not complain because it would look petty to place a new ad asking everyone to reach out to Apple and convince them to change a text color.

[–] Few-Cow7355@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But you can install a theme if you want say black and white or pink and yellow, no?

[–] saint_louis_bagels@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

The problem isn’t the bubble color. Green tells the iOS user that the recipient is receiving an SMS text which fucks up all “messaging” functionality that has become commonplace on iMessage/WhatsApp, Discord, etc.

[–] OriginalStJoe@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’m not sure implementing RCS will require it to functionally be any different than SMS/MMS. Any given client registers with the capabilities they support. Supporting every feature is not required though. Green bubbles are obviously ok. Typing indicators/read receipts could be left out. Image/video quality could still be downgraded. (I doubt this will happen since there’s no technical reason to do so just for RCS).

Playing nice with iMessage isn’t required. One of the biggest headaches for group chats is that leaving an iMessage conversation isn’t possible once one person is on SMS. Other iMessage features also don’t work once one person is using SMS. That could still exist. E2EE is already out.

This may not be the win Google was hoping for.

[–] Yellow_Bee@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Playing nice with iMessage isn’t required.

Don't tell that to the EU... They're looking to force iMessage interoperability with other messaging apps regardless of iMessage's popularity/share market in the EU economic area.

Apple adopting RCS might stave off their attempt for iMessage, but who knows what the EU will do.

[–] OriginalStJoe@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Lack of use of iMessage in the EU might save it. Apple could also just turn it off in the EU.

[–] bobbie434343@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Digital discrimination (especially with teens) over bubble colors and Apple 100% encouraging tribalism. Imagine if the discriminating factor for bubble colors was some other criteria...

[–] saint_louis_bagels@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

The problem isn’t the bubble color. Green tells the iOS user that the recipient is receiving an SMS text which fucks up all “messaging” functionality that has become commonplace on iMessage/WhatsApp, Discord, etc.

[–] GoatQz@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Once RCS is implemented, people will be fine with green, assuming it’s green, as the experience should be much better regardless of what protocol is being used. Green currently means crappy photos, media, and other various experiences that comes with sms/mms.

[–] Buzz_Mcfly@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Good I don’t want android peasants thinking they are part of our elite society

[–] Most_Chance_2090@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

We wouldn't want to be anyways.

[–] Dr904@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Green? Really? Makes no sense. There should be some distinction between SMS and RCS, since the differences are so huge between them.

And btw. Apple. It's about time to change the shade of green! The text is barely visible!!

[–] Johnny_Leon@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Apple finally adapting to RCS?

[–] Some_guy_am_i@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Wait until the EU hears about this shit! See if they don’t legislate that all messages must be the same color!

[–] MyPackage@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No one is going to give a shit about the color once they realize adding an Android user to a group chat will no longer disable reactions and make every video posted look like it was shot on a flip phone.

[–] aaden08@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Agreed. Any adult won't care. Maybe teens will but they are teens with brains still developing so it's expected they'll care about silly things like not being a green bubble.

[–] Lynnizian@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I have an iPhone, but when I text my friend on their android it says "RCS chat with..." above each of my messages on their phone. Will this update fix that, or is that a setting my friend has to change on their phone?

[–] luki-x@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I am too European to understand this.

[–] Obility@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Don't think it was reasonable to expect it to be blue but it being the same as SMS is just dumb. At least a different shade would make sense but this just seems petty for the sake of perpetuating discrimination.

[–] voodoovan@alien.top 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Americans seem to be the only ones who get irritated over the colour of the bubbles. Get over it or attend rehab.

[–] saint_louis_bagels@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The color of the bubble isn't the problem. iMessage uses a green bubble as a indicator that your iMessages are being sent as SMS, which is an old, terrible standard.

Imagine if 90% of people used WhatsApp/Discord but 10% of people are using the default messaging app on their phone. Those 10% of people are causing you to have shitty video/picture messaging. No typing indicators. No read receipts. No delivery confirmation. No in-line replies. Now imagine if you're in a group chat with several people, but that ONE person causes ALL of you to have those limitations. The group would be pissed off at that one person. That's blue bubble/green bubble bullying.

[–] Curri@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Exactly! I wish people understand it's not the color itself; it's what the color represents.

[–] Decent-Photograph391@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

It’s okay. We love it that you hate us.

[–] BradleyEd03@alien.top 0 points 10 months ago

Should make them red so RGB are all represented.

[–] Notyourfathersgeek@alien.top 0 points 10 months ago

I mean we always knew that

[–] udzap@alien.top 0 points 10 months ago

Aw I wanted purple bubbles

[–] FriedChicken@alien.top 0 points 10 months ago

Why the fuck would you make a post with a title like that?

[–] 2GisColorless@alien.top 0 points 10 months ago

Apple loves school bullying I guess