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Okay so I run a few businesses and travel, and my US LLC gets paid in USD.

US PayPal account, and US bank account. Sweet.

BUT I'm not from the US. So I always get blocked by banks and paypal, asking to SMS verify my US phone number

How do you guys solve this problem?

I've tried virtual numbers / Skype but often the stupid site will not accept it saying "sorry that number is not acceptable".

I got a real US SIM, but somehow the US carriers cancel it after I've been nomading outside of the US, even though I'm still paying for it. It lasted for a while but now I'm stuck again.

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[–] SCDWS@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

US Mobile or Tello are your solution if all you need is 2FA SMS codes. Both are eSIMs that are real phone numbers (no VoIP) and only $5 a month with unlimited incoming texts. Tello only works on WiFi/data while outside the US, but US Mobile includes roaming AFAIK.

[–] JackieFinance@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

+1 for US mobile. Been doing this for almost a year, and, so far, works like a charm.

[–] goodpeoplewin@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That sounds awesome. I had a hardware Verizon / T-Mobile SIM and it got cancelled on me when travelling. I think on another visit to the US I got a "US Mobile" e-SIM, but I don't think it works overseas.

It seems like there's just no good solution that works a) forever and b) verifying every service.

[–] AppropriateRecipe342@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

US Mobile definitely works. I think you might be confused because US Mobile doesn't automatically enable global data by default. They enable data on a country by country basis, so unless you went in the app and picked a data plan for the country you're in you won't get data [while you're not on wifi]. However, this has nothing to do with your SMS messages not coming through. They will come through as long as the SIM card is turned on in your phone's settings.

PS - don't buy data from US Mobile it's much cheaper to get a local SIM card wherever you are.

[–] smackson@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Holy shit you mean I can ditch this US$40/mo. Fi bullshit???

🙏🙏

[–] goodpeoplewin@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Just tried Tello, sounds perfect, but the eSIM just won't activate, since I'm not in the US today :[

[–] redcremesoda@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

This is the answer.

[–] soothsayer3@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use NumberBarn and it works fine

[–] goodpeoplewin@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for the suggestion! I think they sometimes work. They're super clear about not promising that 2FA will work though, here's a list of things that they don't work with: https://www.numberbarn.com/blog/sms-notifications-from-your-bank/

[–] eric0e@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I recently moved a mobile number Tossable Digits on their $40/year plan, as I did not like tying up a cellphone just for 2FA. They have a similar warnings as NumberBarn, but so far everything is working for 2FA, including a couple banks. This is a number I have had for a long time that started as a landline, that I then transferred to Ultra Paygo for a couple years, and now it is at Tossable Digits.

[–] Vortex_Analyst@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Go get a Cricket number/sim from states. I have been using them for years outside of country no problem. They also have wifi calling in the package too. I spend 50 a month and get unlimited everything.

[–] ThePoeticVoyage@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I use data sims locally, but keep an active Google Fi account (about $25 per month). You can get your SMS messages via the web interface (messages.google.com). This does not require the sim to be active on the phone. Or even in a phone. Never had any issues with SMS/banks/authenticators, etc. To be clear, this is the only thing I use the line for. I'm not using my Fi account for international roaming. As far as they know, I'm still in the US with the phone off in a drawer.

[–] ricemouse@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I pay a couple bucks a month for an UltraMobile plan that is wifi calling capable. I don’t actually use it very much, but when I need it it’s a lifesaver.

The bonus is also that if I return to the US I’ve already got a phone working.

[–] HaleyN1@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] ohliza@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

This works abroad?

[–] nicholas4488@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I use it also. For 3 years now abroad, still working.

[–] janfromdaito@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I am in the same boat, plus I'd really prefer a cloud-based solution, that is not dependent on a physical SIM or eSIM. Anybody know a SIM-card hoster for US numbers, maybe?

[–] rightioushippie@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope. I keep two phones. I have one with a US SIM card that has an international plan. It's USD$20/month with Simple Mobile. I can't place or make calls. I do that with a SkypeIn number. But I can have Venmo and all the other things.

[–] crackanape@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I have one with a US SIM card that has an international plan. It's USD$20/month with Simple Mobile. I can't place or make calls.

You could switch to Tello and get that down to $5.

[–] Nixon_37@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Perhaps your problem is that you're using one of the big carriers. I have a Tracfone SIM (basically a burner phone) and have been nomading outside the US for the past 2 years and whenever I go back to the US, my phone works fine.

I'm a US citizen though so perhaps different in your case.

[–] justinbars@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I use Google Fi, its $15 usd a month for sms and calls worldwide, then I use local sims for data

[–] Kdkdjffj@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
[–] jordenviolet1@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I feel your pain. Try using Google Voice for your virtual number - it has worked reliably for me so far. Just be sure to actually use it regularly.

[–] CalgaryAnswers@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Get a TMobile account. That’s what I’ve been using and I have no problems being anywhere.

[–] Pitiful-Ball5253@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

What is the cheapest plan that will work overseas on Wi-Fi? Any of the pre-paid plans?

I see that the cheapest T-Mobile got is $45/month

[–] blaze1234@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

TMO based MVNO SIM like

PAYGO from Ultra Mobile

or Tello even better because eSIM can be (re-)provisioned while overseas.

Set up WiFi Calling mode & test ideally while stateside

use off a local data SIM in a dual SIM phone, or from a local data SIM hotspot

[–] -AlpacaJack-@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I recently started traveling and had the same problem. It inspired me to write my first blog post ever on how to solve the issue.

But the other answers you've received in this thread are good. Tello or US Mobile

[–] smackson@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Cool article, keep 'em coming.

Tello sounds almost too good to be true (and it might be for me, due to having a 5-year-old android phone and this note: "For iPhone users there is a cherry on the cake: if you are abroad and you have another local sim or esim on your phone, Tello’s Wi-Fi Calling will work on the data connection of the other sim.")

Also... I've never heard of an E911 address. I presume that 1) it's expecting a US address but that 2) it's not going to be verified in any way, just needs data stuffed in there?

[–] -AlpacaJack-@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Cool article, keep 'em coming.

Thanks 👍

I didn't see that about the iPhone until now. Having "wifi" calling everywhere you have data on a local SIM would be advantageous, but I haven't yet had a time where I needed to receive an SMS and wasn't already sat at my laptop with a Wifi connection.

And for the E911 address, 1) Yes, and 2) As far as I know, no, it won't be verified. I think the only restriction is that it can't be a PO Box address.