this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2023
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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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Randy Balko

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Identity Project

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INFO

A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions

Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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ORGANIZATIONS

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The Marshall Project

Movement Law Lab

NAACP

National Police Accountability Project

Say Their Names

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[–] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Missed the plural officers at first and thought one dude had a really wild ride.

[–] uphillbothways@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't really test for nitrous. idk why you'd admit to that.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You can't test for it on a routine drug screen.

Maybe the accused were going to be sent for a further blood test to more accurately determine drug levels or something like that and they thought better to come clean now than look like a dick when they're caught out for further substance abuse, whether it would've been detected or not.

[–] uphillbothways@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Maybe they were caught on video. Nitrous has a half-life of like 5 minutes. They say it can't be tested in "routine tests" but I'm pretty sure it just can't be tested.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
[–] dasgoat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I don't care if they use weed, but they are enforcing the UK's shitty weed laws. It's shitty to then turn around and smoke yourself, after you bust someone for a few grams

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How much weed were these guys taking!?

[–] indepndnt@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I tried half a weed once and I nearly OD'd. Thought I could fly and nearly threw myself off a hotel balcony. It's what the hallucinations were telling me to do.

[–] joemo@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Taking? More like injecting.

[–] indepndnt@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Met" as an abbreviation always throws me off. I thought this post was about some dudes that OP met, and I wondered how you end up meeting people during their drug tests.

The actual story is not nearly as interesting...

[–] goodgame 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

It’s Meth Please.

More proof that drug laws are a joke. Even the people who enforce them break them.

[–] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ok but who does laughing gas recreationally? Is this a thing?

[–] pixelscience@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, we call them Whippets from the original name. You can buy them on Amazon. Sold as whip cream chargers.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Guess I'm old. Kids don't huff nitrous oxide any more?

[–] havokdj@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It throws psychedelics visuals into overdrive.