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[–] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

They already tried that in 2018 and it got them shot by israelis. Also didnt israel killed their own pm (who himself is still fucking brutal and did war crimes) who tried some sort of compromise that heavily favors israel?

[–] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Yitzhak_Rabin

The perpetrator was Yigal Amir, a 25-year-old former Hesder student and far-right law student at Bar-Ilan University. Amir had strenuously opposed Rabin's peace initiative, particularly the signing of the Oslo Accords, because he felt that an Israeli withdrawal from the West Bank would deny Jews their "biblical heritage which they had reclaimed by establishing settlements". Amir had come to believe that Rabin was a rodef, meaning a "pursuer" who endangered Jewish lives. The concept of din rodef ("law of the pursuer") is a part of traditional Jewish law. Amir believed he would be justified under din rodef in removing Rabin as a threat to Jews in the territories.[15]

[–] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 1 points 11 months ago

"But have you considered being rEsPeCtAbLe‽"

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

peaceful march

They tried that, Israel mowed them down en masse, it didn't lose an ounce of legitimacy in the eyes of international-community-1international-community-2

[–] sicklemode@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The fuck is it with liberals finding the aesthetic of oppression sexy? If you die without fighting your oppressors, you're a sexy hero. If you fight back and attempt to liberate yourself from your oppressors all of a sudden you're a hideous beast and suddenly it's your oppressors who need all the backup in the universe to protect them from your "unprovoked" attacks.

It's literally an ideology to disarm the oppressed and protect the function and integrity of oppressors (justifying mythos). These people want DSA type shit where they believe bringing a bunch of flowers to your own fucking funeral is somehow noble praxis. Surrendering yourself to the enemy is how we're supposed to win struggles... Well, why aren't they suggesting such shit for the Ukrainians? They conveniently support force only when it's the worst people imaginable perpetrating it.

Liberalism and the justifying mythos they leverage must be destroyed. Force works. Fuck these people who try to keep the oppressed docile.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just so everyone knows, they did lead a peaceful march a few years back and the Israelis shot thousands and thousands of them.

[–] Huldra@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

And Israel lost no legitimacy over it, the international media either treated it as business like usual, those rowdy middle easterners just failing to get along, or straight up told Palestinians that they had no right to protest like that and that every single civilian was actually either a willing or stupid human shield for cloaked hamas agents, there to attack the IDF.

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[–] DoiDoi@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The Palestinians should offer themselves to the butcher's knife. They should throw themselves into the sea from cliffs. It would arouse the world and the people of Israel.

Gandhi, twitter, 2023

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago

For context, here’s the original quote:

An actual Holocaust reference

Hitler killed five million [sic] Jews. It is the greatest crime of our time. But the Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher’s knife. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs.....It would have aroused the world and the people of Germany.... As it is they succumbed anyway in their millions.

— Mahatma Gandhi, June 1946

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Beat me to it. Easy to say other people should just lay down and die I guess.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

he meant himself/Indians as well -- he was that idealistic and had that poor of a understanding of why his protests worked in India. MLK was all around the much better political leader, down to reassessing his view on nonviolence.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

“Just line up against the mass graves so the fascists can kill you easily” is quite the take from libs

[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They literally did the "lie down and pretend to be dead and let them arrest you" "protest" during the George Floyd stuff. Liberal ideology has no room for effective political action.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

radliberalism is a disease and a potentially fatal one that will get you killed doing stupid pointless symbolic horseshit

[–] dragongloss@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do libs live in the real world?

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

They get their ideas and their personality templates from The West Wing and related shows.

[–] Graphite22@hexbear.net 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Last time I saw someone say this in a Hexbear comment I went and checked, and the poster was in fact 16 years old.

This time I checked, the poster is an editor for Jacobin and a grown ass man.

[–] wombat@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism