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[–] CrazyDuck@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (28 children)

I simply cannot grasp how a judicial system that's entirely based on standing, suddenly decides that 6 random states that have 0 stake in this whole FEDERAL student loan thing have standing to sue over this forgiveness plan

[–] axolittl@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

It's corruption. This isn't a fluke, it's that the "justice" system revolves around what's best for the already powerful elites. It happened because the powerful wanted it to happen, the court just exists to provide the theater to control and placate the masses.

[–] cakeistheanswer@lemmy.fmhy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Activist judge gets thrown around a lot, but if the shoe fits....

[–] 1chemistdown@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

The only reason activist judge gets thrown around a lot is because the fascists have been screaming it for several decades while they stack the courts with activist judges. There screams have also caused the other side to fill courts with moderates so they’re not seen as stacking the courts.

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What is also interesting to me is the Supreme Court has rejected pretty much all forms of standing for establishment clause violations.

You could be a religious Muslim rightfully upset that your local government is making public statements about Jesus being lord and you would have no standing since they wiped out offended observer standing.

[–] LordofCandy@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am really getting tired of many of these cases where they are based on theoretical harm. It’s like my mother-in-law arguing about 5 things that haven’t happened yet. Possible. Probable. Reality.

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[–] acchariya@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now that student borrowers aren't getting a "free ride", I want PPP loan recipients to be required to pay back the full amount, plus say, 9% interest, retroactively. Why should my tax dollars pay for your free business loan?

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[–] nortorc@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Student loan forgiveness doesn't go far enough. We need to overhaul the higher education system to rein in the cost of tuition. I mean, regardless of where you stand on student loan forgiveness, can we at least all agree that a bachelor's degree costing anywhere near six figures is absurd?

[–] Robocopsicle@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (10 children)

This quote from Pence is so unbelievably infuriating.

Joe Biden’s massive trillion-dollar student loan bailout subsidizes the education of elites on the backs of hardworking Americans

Good to know all of the millennial and gen z college graduates earning less than $125,000 per year and struggling in an awful economy are "elites" and not "hardworking Americans."

Since I'm now apparently an elite, do I get a membership card in the mail?

Vote vote vote.

[–] Vynlovanth@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Just another way the GOP is gaslighting the American public. American public distrusts the “elite” which the GOP represent or are part of themselves so they attempt to change what “elite” actually is. All of the lower and middle class people fight each other over a few thousand dollars while millionaires and billionaires siphon millions to billions from them through government handouts or record profits/“inflation”.

[–] diskmaster23@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

Hardworking Americans are rich people. It's a code. Poor people aren't hard working because they are poor. If they were, they would be rich. All of the mental gymnastics is just that, and it is ridiculous.

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[–] iRyu@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Wouldn't it just be so cool to live in a society where people cared about their neighbors?

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[–] HulkSmashBurgers@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Eehh fuck the conseritives on the supreme court.

[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Fuck my life, the one peice of hope I had for a lifeline out of poverty

[–] TempleSquare@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You join like six people I personally know, either is a close friend or family member.

For some reason this one feels so deeply personal, that I feel motivated to vote like hell. I'm so over being held hostage by maniac Boomers who are losing their minds. We are the bigger generation now. Let's go kick their asses!

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[–] Laughbone@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess the only way to get your loans forgiven is to become a Supreme Court justice and have your assigned billionaire pay them off.

Or take out a PPP loan.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

SCOTUS is why we can't have nice things. Well, them and congress. And often the executive branch.

Basically we can't have nice things.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

99% of the time it's conservatives.

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[–] HipHoboHarold@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (7 children)

5 rich people sign a paper saying it's cool if they die in a shitty submarine, they do, and we spent millions trying to find them.

But people actually need help and we could improve our society and economy in numerous ways, and we can't do that.

I hate this place so God damn much.

[–] nortorc@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

5 rich people sign a paper saying it’s cool if they die in a shitty submarine, they do, and we spent millions trying to find them.

Not that I don't agree with the sentiment, but this isn't exclusive to the rich. There have been numerous cave diving incidents where people intentionally do stupid things like ignoring warning signs or breaking past locked gates only to end up in trouble and require a huge rescue operation to get them out and/or recover their bodies.

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[–] TheVampireSaga@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] degrix@lemmy.hqueue.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well that’s definitely unfortunate. People are already tightening their belts, this can’t be good for the economy.

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[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I'm so pissed that it seems like Congress doesn't do jack shit and when the president wants to do anything good for people the supreme court can just shut it down.

The supreme court is legislating from the bench and it just shows how broken our system is.

They'll give unlimited tax breaks to the rich but deny any sort of help to people struggling to pay bills.

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