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The EU says X is the worst platform for disinformation | Just as it removes a way to report election misinformation::undefined

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"Remember, Free Speech is when I, and only I, can say whatever the hell I want!" - Elon Musk

How is twitter still standing? Mastodon is the way of the future

[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I sometimes wonder how much it would take to get people to leave X en masse. Maybe if Elon was posting Nazi propaganda?

[–] Venomnik0@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not even. Remember he was funding people like Andrew Tate thousands of dollars. Nothing is gonna get these people out unless they get charged to use twitter

[–] SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago

A lot of people don't think Andrew Tate is wrong so I don't think that's a great argument (or at least that's what appears to be on places like insta, etc)

[–] Asudox@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Lots of them surely will migrate to Mastodon when Elon releases that fee bs. Honestly, we should thank Elon for that. Thanks to him, Mastodon will become mainstream soon.

[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 11 months ago

I'm sure that's only for blue checks.

[–] clearleaf@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If lemmy didn't take over the world after the Reddit schism then I don't think twitter will ever die either. Twitter users have been given every reason to leave yet there's already lots of people paying money to the person they hate the most in the world just to use it. And most of those people aren't really people anymore, they're twitter users on every level of their being. It would be like a blobfish out of water.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Honestly I'm surprised it didn't become a ghost town like Tumblr did after they banned porn.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 20 points 11 months ago (3 children)

When did we collectively decide techbro billionaires should be the arbiter of what is and isn't disinformation?

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 6 points 11 months ago

When we decided to gather in their websites in large masses and ignore our common sense

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

When we decided that freedom of speech was a core freedom, and the wealthiest people own the biggest megaphones. Musk's Twitter is just a reflection of the same system that protects the Murdochs, Chatham Asset Management, etc. The bar for "this speech is illegal" is extremely high in most first-world countries, at least unless your disinformation can be shown to harm important corporations (fraud) or rich people with really really good lawyers (defamation) or the justice system itself (perjury, filing false reports), it's basically impossible to fight. This weakness of the justice system was why everybody was happy to see amoral corporations like Twitter taking up the project pre-Musk.

Remember, the only people who managed to extract consequences for The Big Lie from the above organizations is Dominion Voting Systems, a huge corporation that could show damages.

As long as the facts of our shared reality are considered beneath protection unless they coincide with the financial interests of VIPs, shitty people with big megaphones will lie with impunity.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 3 points 11 months ago

A pension fund is standing in line to be next after dominion, because they're investors and Fox hurt their investments by lying so badly that they had to pay

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/12/media/fox-corporation-new-york-city-oregon-lawsuit/index.html

[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Well, we gave the people with the money the power to decide everything else that's important so why not that too?

[–] Marstwice@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

If it's the worst for disinformation then it's the best for information, right? Right?

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It already was prior to Musk's takeover.

It's just always been a cesspool. A complete waste of human energy and time. And it never once turned a profit. An abject failure by every metric.

[–] CosmoNova@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It already was prior to Musk’s takeover.

It's crazy how media pretends Twitter wasn't the biggest contributor to Trump's MAGA movement, being the most followed user on the site up until his fanatic followers stormed the US capitol. I mean did people already forget these dreadful years of "Trump tweeted" headlines every single day??? Twitter has been an enemy to democracy for many years.

[–] SMT42@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I don't know how you can say that was anti-democratic, though.
That level of open and direct communication from the sitting president is very democratic. Say what you will about the content of that communication, but Twitter did not act undemocratically by allowing the president to speak freely...

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

EU should block X. See how Lonnie responds to that.

Future headline: Lonboy threatens to sue EU

[–] Jonna@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We should all keep calling it Twitter and let Elon get pissed at getting dead-named.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 11 months ago

Who, Lonnie? That's what I call him.

[–] TheSaneWriter@lemmy.thesanewriter.com 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This is completely unsurprising. Under the new "free speech" regime, X has been completely deluged with antisemitic, pro-Russia, and anti-democracy propaganda. It's no wonder that advertisers don't want to be associated with that type of content.

[–] Kind@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

"Goebbels was in favor of free speech for views he liked. So was Stalin. If you’re really in favor of free speech, then you’re in favor of freedom of speech for precisely the views you despise. Otherwise, you’re not in favor of free speech" Noam Chomsky

[–] WuTang@lemmy.ninja -1 points 11 months ago

I think, you miss: LGBT-Z phobic, pro-oil and even babies eaters.

[–] Myro@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Musk probably sees this as a confirmation it's working as intended.

[–] thatsTheCatch@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Surely it can't be worse than Truth Social or Rumble... I'm assuming they mean mainstream platforms

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We watching how daft Elon is in real time, and his fan boys and girls are still trying to tell us he's smart...

[–] Venutianxspring@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of my coworkers swears he's just the biggest troll and this is all some part of his masterplan.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Masterplan to accomplish what, exactly?

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

He thinks this will somehow get Grimes to come back to him.

No idea, he can never give me an answer about that.

[–] Kind@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

Has the EU ever watched the media talking heads or read a newspaper, they contain government propaganda and intel agency talking points

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca -1 points 11 months ago

Muskovite works in the service of Moscow.

[–] Decompose@programming.dev -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I read this as "X is the platform that shares all the information that doesn't follow our authoritarian agendas".

Good. That means X is serving its purpose: informing people of all available opinions in a crazy, leftist, authoritarian world that's indicting speech.

No one owns a monopoly on the truth.