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House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries argued on Sunday that his Republicans colleagues are "in the middle of a civil war" over the best way forward amid a newly launched impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden, an ongoing spending fight and another looming shutdown of the federal government.

"Civil war has the following attributes: chaos, dysfunction and extremism. The House Republican civil war is hurting hardworking American taxpayers and limiting our ability to be able to solve problems on their behalf," Jeffries told ABC "This Week" co-anchor Jonathan Karl.

"It's unfortunate. But as House Democrats, we're going to continue to try to find common ground with the other side of the aisle," Jeffries said, adding: "Hopefully the House Republicans will come along so that we can work to make sure we are funding the government."

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[–] muse@kbin.social 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm so goddamn sick of common ground talks from Democrats

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you're in the minority and want to get anything done, you need to find common ground with at least some of the majority. It's just math.

[–] muse@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no common ground though. And republicans when in the minority have not sought common ground, they've sought to divide, partner with foreign adversaries and cozy up to monsters. In the last 40 years, in a speed run since Newt Gingrich, have stopped trying to work together for the country and only seek absolute power.

"Meet me in the middle says the unjust man.

You take a step forward, he takes a step back.

Meet me in the middle says the unjust man."

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also worth mentioning they aren't the majority. They just hold more seats because of historical inequities in law and active disenfranchisement of voters.

[–] 2ez@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Also gerrymandering

[–] Heavybell@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Non-USian here, wondering what this Biden impeachment thing is I'm hearing about for the first time. Is there anything more to it than "well they impeached our guy"?

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

You're right, it is revenge for applying justice to wrong doing. Objectively there is no evidence of Biden doing anything criminal but the conservatives want to push the idea that if their leader can be brought up on criminal charges then it applies to anyone - even a sitting president.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Clinton was impeached because we "almost impeached" Nixon. And to distract from his as well as Reagan and Bush's crimes. Now that we've actually held a Republican minorly to account in a largely meaningless way. Republicans have become fully unhinged. And after a setback of nearly 100 years, finally fully ready to openly embrace fascism again. Persecuting and prosecuting people simply for who they are.

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago

Nope. It's all for revenge and for keeping their base riled up and misinformed.

[–] Poob@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's revenge and nothing else

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

I think it's slightly more than just that. With this inquiry, as bullshit as it is, they can with the next elections tell their base "see? Theyr guy got impeached too!"

It's a bullshit strategy, but a strategy nonetheless and it'll work because their base isn't exactly known for being highly educated or well informed

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

That's pretty much it. The goppers have raging butthurt over their guy getting caught (several times).

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

That's about it, but to be clear it's an impeachment inquiry, which is basically opening an investigation. Could more evidence be uncovered by that investigation? Sure, that's the point. But will enough be found to prove high crimes or misdemeanors, have articles of impeachment written up, be brought to a vote, and actually impeach the president? Highly unlikely, and it only gets less likely with each step. Oh, and that says nothing about the Democrat-controlled Senate that needs a 2/3 vote to convict.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Fuck ‘em. Traitors, one and all.

[–] twistypencil@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Good let them turn on each other and consume themselves like the rabid dogs they are

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Some Republicans were outraged that Jefferies used the term "civil war" to describe what their party is going through. I wonder if they were just as outraged when some Republicans, like Greene, said that red states should secede.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Christ, and these people have a real chance of installing the toxic orange again.

The cons are completely unserious about addressing any real issues. It's all about owning the libs, punching down on others, and completely fucking up the (real) economy.

[–] SuperSpaceFan@artemis.camp 3 points 1 year ago

The adult in the room.