Welp…that’s another one added to the “wait until it’s removed” list
this post was submitted on 16 Sep 2023
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More like added to the list of "wait till pirates fix it"
Will happen sooner than it being officially removed.
That's cool, but some people prefer to buy their games. To either show support, to track their hours/achievements, or the biggest one is to easily receive updates without having to scavenge the web to find an update patch.
Supporting devs is good, but supporting a denuvo game is also showing that you will tolerate such overbearing DRM
People shouldn't show support for companies that are willing to use this shit.
Also fuck updates. I hate that effect of the Internet on games, where they just keep updating, which also leads to increased laziness on release. I miss the days when you got a game and that was it, what you had was what you had, never to change again unless they release an expansion pack.
And without the context that these devs just added Denuvo to their game, you might have a point. They shouldn't be supported for fucking consumers, time can be tracked by adding as a non-Steam game, and by the point they remove Denuvo, the patches probably won't be rolling in anymore.
Personally, I don't pirate, so this is where I'd buy grey market or used on console. They wanna be dicks, I'm gonna be a dick right back.
I think they're talking about the performance hit denuvo adds to a game
You can do all that pirated too, no scavenging needed
That’s cool, but some people prefer to buy their games. To either show support
"Show support" sounds like you only care about showing the game off to others on your steam profile. you can pirate and still buy merch if have the overwhelming need to not feel morally bad. the devs got paid, denuvo publishers don't deserve anything.
Or, you can buy products. If you don't like what they do, just don't buy them.
I am not even defending Denuvo. I will not be buying this game. Pirating it also supports them, because if you talk about the game, show your friends, stream it, upload screenshots/videos, etc, you're potentially getting others, who refuse to pirate, to buy the game.
If you don't like what the company is doing, don't play it.
You can show support without buying the game. Indie devs often have patreons or donation links these days
They don't remove it just because it would sell more later on, they remove it because it's a big licensing cost that will stop being profitable once most sales have happened.
My point is; if the publisher used Denovo, just don't be buy the game ever.
I won't touch nothing with Denuvo on it.
So you will touch everything with denuvo on it? Since that was a double negative
The good news is once it's removed, you can just pirate it.
Fuck Denuvo.
Agreed
If anyone pre-ordered it (which generally isn't advisable anyway) then this could be reasonable grounds for a refund.
The DRM was added right as the game’s 72-hour early access period started, which is included as part of Lies of P‘s Deluxe Edition.
The actual work done to integrate Denuvo was far before release, of course, but it feels a bit sneaky to disclose the DRM as late as possible. I wonder if this is how it's disclosed for other games as well.
I wanted to buy one full price game this fall.
I decided against AC6, so LoP and BG3 were frontrunners.
Well that's an easy choice now.
Bg3 is getting patch 3 in 5 days unless something changes so its gonna get even better in terms of performance tho no idea what else gets changef or added cept mac support
I haven’t bought any game with Denuvo yet an won’t ever buy one. Such a pity because I was interested.
I have. By accident because I forgot to check when I was too eager to buy
Annoying - the demo was really good, and ran great on Linux using Proton. Guess I'm going to be holding off on buying till it's removed and on sale, then - there's no point in buying a game early and it running like shit.
At least it's stated in the game's Steam page. Dead Space Remake has Denuvo since day 1 and there was no warning in their Steam page at all for a long time. Last time I checked they had added the warning, though.
I got caught out with sniper elite 5 in the same fashion. It also has a warning on it now. You don't have to install Denuvo to play the game on that one, but you cannot play any multiplayer without it.
Lies of P quietly drops off my waitlist.
That's some bullshit there in adding DRM after the fact and should be ground for a refund.
Stuff like this makes me glad I'm more of a patient gamer.
Isn't that illegal in quite a few European countries? I vaguely remember something about 3th party software requirements needing to be disclosed some amount of time before release.
Well thats only temporary. It always is.
I dont know what this game is though..