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How to get out of an uncomfortable egg culture situation with this one simple trick.
Real talk: Calling people eggs is a violation of the egg prime directive, and is considered invalidating as you are trying to say that a person is not the gender they identify as, that their identity is invalid. Don't call people eggs, like ever, it's extremely uncool.
I'm new to this. When is egg considered a slur and why? Is it OK to say "so your egg cracked" to a person who came out after a long period of gender-questioning?
If a person is gender non-conforming like a femboy, it is considered unacceptable to assume they are an egg based on their presentation not aligning with gender stereotypes. If a person is currently questioning or does not identify as trans it is generally not good to call them an egg either.
Really the only time is after a person comes out, and even then it can be iffy due to the connotations associated and the prevalent misuse of the term. Some people might not use the term Egg to describe themselves at all even before coming out in the past.
The safest use of the term is to describe oneself in the past-tense.
i.e. "I remember back then, I was such an egg"
I'm imagining my grandpa trying to decode what it means to call an ftm femboy an egg and just losing his mind
yes hello I'm not a grandpa but I am very confused I have never heard this term used for anything but these
how did it become derogatory to ftm femboys
"Egg" is a term used to refer to a trans person who hasn't come out (of their shell) yet.
Oooh it's like "closet". Thanks!
ohhhhhh lol now it seems so simple I feel a bit dumb for not getting it 😅 thanks for spelling it out for me
based and my-gender-is-none-of-your-business pilled
the whole egg concept always rubbed me the wrong way and this finally put words to it, it feels so strange that people who reject assigned labels will them merrily go ahead and force labels upon others.
Just let people be people, and they can inform you of their identity if they so wish.
okay I do agree that calling people eggs is problematic, but this argument sucks. You can't both ask me to treat FtM people differently from men and ask me to treat them the same as men. The reason you don't call someone an egg is because their gender is none of your business.
I think the point of bringing up trans men is that sometimes people say that calling cis people eggs is harmless because you're at worst making someone in the supermajority briefly uncomfortable, and potentially helping someone who's trans figure themselves out. The point of bringing up trans men in this image is to point out that this argument misses how this attitude still ends up hurting trans people.
Even if I'm right about the intent though, I agree it doesn't come through that well, and I'm still feeling like this guess is a stab in the dark.
I thought the point of this was to treat them both the same. If yes, you're not cool for invalidating two people's genders, if no, you're still not cool for invalidating one person's gender. Maybe I'm misreading but I don't see your comment represented in the meme.
Disclaimer: I don't really believe this -- but the counter-argument would be to the one on the left: "why does it matter if the man is trans?" (which is a numbskull counterargument, but it fits in the context of the question on the right.) It's just dumb to put those two boxes next to each other IMO because it draws a very stupid venn diagram.
does egg in this context refer to the femboy wanting to express feminine but doesn't really understand what being a femboy is, or is the femboy expressing feminine and being called an egg as in the "you are just trans and dont know it" BS? I'm a tad confused 🥺
Egg in this context means ‘you’re really a girl but not admitting/realizing it yet’.
That's such a direct parallel to "its just a phase you'll grow out of it" that it's straight up bigotry if you spend 5 seconds thinking about it.
ohhh ok I get it now. Thanks!
Can I call me egg tho
If you want to call yourself an egg, you absolutely can. The Egg Prime Directive governs treatment of others, but you're free to call yourself an egg if you wish, since by virtue of you deciding to do it you are already okay with labeling yourself that way. Even if you somehow aren't okay with you doing it to yourself. I mean... misgendering yourself is between you and yourself alone.
I'm vegan, can I call myself Aquafaba instead?
Sure, if you want to, go for it.
Perhaps if you need to, you can try suing yourself.
The lawyers would sure be happy.
yeah but if they are dressed as a actual egg
Like this?
exactly
egg-actly
Can someone explain the concept and etymology of "egg"? I am wholly uninformed and search engines are now shit.
The trans person in question is the hatchling. Someone who is an egg is someone who has yet to hatch into their true identity.
Thank you
As a concept it's a person that's trans but hasn't realised yet. Sometimes there are signs, which is where you might run into the mentioned situation of calling someone an egg. Experimenting with clothing made for women is a common/obvious one, but it doesn't always mean they're an egg. They might just like the clothing but still identify as a man.
The etymology? I dunno.
thank you
I think the etymology stems from the fact that an egg hatches into a chick.