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I have problems with people who abstained. The hard thing is, how do you change voter behavior?

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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Wow, I haven't had Philip DeFranco on my mind in a minute, bro. I grew out of him quite fast. He was talking a load of gossip and I just wasn't interested anymore. Must be 10 years since I watched a video.

[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago

Interesting, I wasn't really a fan of his before but been watching him off and on for the past couple of months. His format must've changed because I wouldn't really consider his video's gossip (I only get his news videos in my feed, not sure if he does others).

Ok, so I was curious and went to his channel and browsed his videos. You're absolutely right it used to be all internet "fame" gossip lol, with maybe a news story sprinkled in here and there. It seems he's decided to shift his stance looking at the last couple of months. I honestly don't mind the gossip sprinkled in because I don't have the energy to keep up with all the influencer drama and I'm usually left confused when I hear about it.

I'll admit I was surprised with realizing that post was from defranco, usually he's way more neutral about his position when reporting on things. He's trying to come off as genuine but then it all falls apart when he describes people yelling and just generally using a negative tone giving his position away.

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[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (7 children)

The genocide(and poor national level performance) was the last straw for many people who have been lifelong democrat voters. After 30+ years of seeing dems bring ferocity and strategy and boldness to primaries only to sit in office, renege and fail on many of those promises even in times when they have a ~~supermajority~~ majority. Then to see only a few dems actually screaming on the floors of congress. As well biden refusing to use the bully pulpit.

I don't believe any of them wanted this outcome. I do believe they felt their vote was only going to promote a regime that would continue the trend of genocide and protecting wall street over the needs of desparate citizens. Billions to kill and profit then pennies to the people.

I believe the fault lies entirely on the DNC and not the voters who saw no benefit in promoting the party over the other.

It's wrong, a dem in power is worlds better, but i understand seeing it as pointless in the moment. There is no good answer, only a less wrong one...

To answer the question, pass useful legislation and don't promote genocide. Legislation like universal healthcare, constitutional abortion(and other women's healthcare), raising minimum wage, universal pre-k, Union support, decriminalize drugs(esp. Weed), and to reverse inflation to name only just a tiny few..

TLDR: 30yrs of "lesser of two evils" kills voter motivation. Blame the party not the people.

Edit: technically not a supermajority...

[–] ghterve@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I still can blame the voters who chose the more wrong option, either explicitly or implicitly through non voting. More than one can be blamed.

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[–] Ghosthacked@lemm.ee 8 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (10 children)

This was NOT the time to do this. This election was about the end of fucking democracy in the face of fascism and these abstainers wanted to pull teenage shit and fucking ended the country as we know it.

Now Gaza is getting wiped out because these abstainers couldn't abstract what a p2025 theocracy was going to do?

People were screaming about this for months. THIS election was an existential fight right now at home, and they chose to pull idealist teenage shit.

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[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (13 children)

"We offered nothing and lost to a liar who said they would get something if he came back into office. Why did we lose?"

"We said everything was going great when the public was facing hardships and being targeted by systemic and economic inequality, and the dude lied and said he'd solve it. Why did we lose?"

"The last guy was unpopular and didn't push back on Trump to get him jail. And then we said we'd do nothing different as Americans are facing homeless and their bodily autonomy being ripped away from them. How did we lose?"

"We courted Republicans who openly hate our voter base, alienated them by saying we don't need you, and Republicans are too brainwashed to vote for anyone but Republicans. Why did we lose?"

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 18 points 20 hours ago

"We let the campaign be run by the same people who already lost against Trump in 2016. Why did we lose?"

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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Based on the top level comments here - yeah, they still think that Harris is exactly the same as Trump, and have zero regrets.

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[–] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

Trump wouldn't be able to talk about "rebuilding" Gaza now if Biden/Harris hadn't already helped demolish it

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago

Yes he would.

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