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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 64 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

It looks like this is the end.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 74 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

The house has been burning and smoking for hours and people are still thinking that the fire just started

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[–] Mac@mander.xyz 4 points 14 hours ago

Does anyone else hear violins?

[–] griff@lemmings.world 7 points 14 hours ago

They say the world is turning around, I say the world is upside down—Joe Higgs

[–] not_amm@lemmy.ml 18 points 18 hours ago

This has happened in México too, the most famously recorded one was during Enrique Peña Nieto's term (sorry for linking to YT). They said the flag thing was an accident, but it was during the Flag Day and everyone was angry with the way the government was handling things. The government-influenced media was angry with the military because "they made a mistake", but we all knew why it happened.

https://youtu.be/cwW9X_GBtco

[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 24 points 19 hours ago (6 children)
  1. Is this real
  2. What does it mean?
  3. Where are we in terms of worrying? Should I begin to start to think about worrying or something more urgent?
[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 38 points 18 hours ago
  1. I see little reason to doubt it
  2. It means whoever hoisted it considers there to be a crisis, which is consistent with accounts of public offices being overtaken by random young white men who are rapidly taking control.
  3. Speaking as a non-American political scientist having worked a little with rule of law and fascism, it seems a bit late to start worrying. Think about what you can do for yourself, your neighbours, and your country, urgently or in the longer term. It's going to be ugly for a while.
[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 25 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

#3 depends where you are on the hit list I suppose. I'm trans, so I'm well past worry-o-clock and am actively making arrangements to leave the country. Someone like a cishet white male tech worker has a lot less to worry about though

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[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

Wasn't the upside down us flag thing used by j6'ers? Are the line workers taking it back as the symbol of a stolen country for themselves, or is this Musk and crew indicating we're fucked?

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 87 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Its nothing exclusive to J6. Its an international sign that an insurrection or coup has occurred or is occurring.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 66 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Not quite, it's an international sign that a vessel is in distress.

Then mostly right wing lunatics co-opted it to mean that our country is in distress.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 41 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Which they co-opted from protesters in the 60's, rallying against the Vietnam war, which they co-opted from the Revolutionary war, where (allegedly, much harder to source), the revolutionaries also flew the Union Jack inverted. Its history to mean insurrection in the US is as old as the US.

Its been used in many other instances internationally, and yes, also at sea with a much deeper history to signal distress. Regardless, the pedantry is both technically and figuratively misplaced.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 34 points 19 hours ago

which they co-opted from the Revolutionary war, where (allegedly, much harder to source), the revolutionaries also flew the Union Jack inverted.

If they did, I assume a half dozen vexillology enthusiasts with good eyesight got very concerned.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 16 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

also flew the Union Jack inverted

How could they tell?

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[–] meowmeowbeanz@sh.itjust.works 13 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Performative resistance from inside the machine. Cute gesture, but distress signals only work when someone's actually coming to help. Meanwhile, career diplomats keep writing memos and processing visas while posting their quiet protests on social.

Remember when we thought these symbols meant something would change? Now it's just content for the outrage cycle. Tomorrow there'll be a strongly worded letter, maybe some resigned LinkedIn posts from mid-level FSOs.

The machinery keeps grinding, upside down flag or not. Though I suppose watching institutional despair go viral is peak 2025.

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