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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 89 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Its nothing exclusive to J6. Its an international sign that an insurrection or coup has occurred or is occurring.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 68 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Not quite, it's an international sign that a vessel is in distress.

Then mostly right wing lunatics co-opted it to mean that our country is in distress.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Ahh, I didn't know about that historical context. Thanks!

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 41 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Which they co-opted from protesters in the 60's, rallying against the Vietnam war, which they co-opted from the Revolutionary war, where (allegedly, much harder to source), the revolutionaries also flew the Union Jack inverted. Its history to mean insurrection in the US is as old as the US.

Its been used in many other instances internationally, and yes, also at sea with a much deeper history to signal distress. Regardless, the pedantry is both technically and figuratively misplaced.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 34 points 21 hours ago

which they co-opted from the Revolutionary war, where (allegedly, much harder to source), the revolutionaries also flew the Union Jack inverted.

If they did, I assume a half dozen vexillology enthusiasts with good eyesight got very concerned.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 16 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

also flew the Union Jack inverted

How could they tell?

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 hours ago

The flag isn’t symmetrical, which is where the orginial flying the flag upside down comes from. It’s subtle enough pirates wont notice but an experienced British naval officer will and come rescue you.

[–] spizzat2@lemm.ee 9 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

international

How does that work for a ship from a country like Cuba?

Do they hang it backward? I.e. With the red arrow pointing toward the pole?

What about Japan?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 15 hours ago

I could be mistaken, but I think that was a consideration when designing the stars and stripes. The colors and lack of symmetry make it easy to see its orientation from a distance.