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After creating a fresh installation of Ubuntu 24.04, I installed DEB Firefox from APT by following Mozilla's instructions from here. But I noticed that it was secretly replaced with Snap Firefox. I was able to verify this by checking the About Firefox page. This is the third time I noticed this.

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[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 hour ago

Yeah it's not really a secret

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 points 37 minutes ago (1 children)

This is why i switched to Debian. It's 99% of Ubuntu, without the crap.

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 minutes ago

I.... I.... I don't know why I haven't done that myself. (Am now on NixOS btw) but for work maybe I ask for Debian cloud box.

Yeah, there's an entire page bitching about it on Linux Mint's website.

[–] zod000@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 hours ago

Definitely not you, they absolutely do this with snaps and have for a while. This was the main reason I stopped using Ubuntu.

[–] Morphit 27 points 3 hours ago (11 children)
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[–] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 28 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Yes. That was the last straw for me. I switched to debian stable, and haven't looked back since

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Debian will have snaps and flatpaks and all the same insecure black-box drek.

Given how much they violate ISO27002, I can't see them ever being run in a regs-compliant shop.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago

I feel like snaps are black boxier tho.

Hah! Me too, exactly this.

[–] SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 4 hours ago

Solve the problem. Drop ubunutu

[–] notabot@lemm.ee 10 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I suspect that what's happened is you installed the apt version, then at some point upgraded it and there was a version in the main repo that had a higher version number and installed the snap version. If two repositories both have a package with the same name, and no other rules in place, the higher version number wins.

If that is the case, you need to pin the firefox package to the mozilla repository. You can find more details here: https://wiki.debian.org/AptConfiguration

[–] sourov@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

This explains situation.

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[–] phar@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 hours ago (14 children)

At this point, why is anyone using Ubuntu for desktop? You have soooo many options

[–] gpopides@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Unfortunately it's my only option at work because my employer wants the security of Ubuntu pro

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[–] Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show 67 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

They started doing that in a couple of years back. Saw quite a bit of backlash in the Linux news media at the time.

[–] Amaterasu@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Not defending Ubuntu but wasn't this clarified to be Mozilla's deploying it via Snap and requesting to remove the apt installation?

Source: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/how-to-install-firefox-deb-apt-ubuntu-22-04

[–] ggppjj@lemmy.world 2 points 44 minutes ago

It was a collaboration, although I'm having trouble finding a source for who wanted it first.

https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/feature-freeze-exception-seeding-the-official-firefox-snap-in-ubuntu-desktop/24210

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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 47 points 6 hours ago

It is one of the reasons many people turn away from Ubuntu.

[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 39 points 6 hours ago (7 children)
[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 14 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

But it's not obvious either. When I say 'apt install firefox', specially after adding their repository to sources.list, I'd expect to get a .deb from mozilla. Silently overriding my commands rubs me in a very wrong way.

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[–] dbkblk@lemmy.world 15 points 5 hours ago

Switch to Debian and you'll be fine :)

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