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I just finished setting up a custom router with dns ad blocking. Next comes a media player so I can purge this smart TV filth from my household.

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[–] Lootboblin@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I tried to search modern basic TVs without the ”smart” stuff. I only found few from Philips and Procaster. Also all of them were small 24”-32” and only 720p.

Fuck ”Smart” TVs!

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 3 points 13 hours ago

Where can I pirate the ads instead of paying for your TV service?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, the super bowl ads are seen as part of the entertainment by many people and the companies generally do go out of their way to make the funniest or cutest ads of the year. Any other time I would fully agree with you.

[–] galanthus@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This is insane.

USA really is a cyberpunk dystopia.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah. Yeah it is. I was in Times Square recently and had the thought that this was the glitzy permanent neon lighting to go with all the other stuff.

[–] bananymous@lemmy.ml 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is American football not merely a vehicle through which advertising can be pumped? You’d think the entire sport had been designed from the ground up for such a purpose.

Four seconds of action, six minutes of commercials….3.6 seconds of action, 47 replays, five minutes of commercials.

P.S. Smart TVs can eat shit and die.

[–] Godnroc@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I went to a game for the first time a few years ago. I recall the moment where everyone was sitting around and not doing anything because they were waiting for the commercials to finish. It felt like watching actors drop their characters the moment they step out of the spotlight.

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It will be a dark day indeed when I allow my TV to connect to the internet. These things are glorified monitors.

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You're right, we should start putting ads on all monitors

Somewhere, an ad exec just stiff.

[–] Waldschrat@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Return it. If you hold on to it (even if you block the ads and all) it will signal the manufacturer, that this practice is fine.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

And then buy a non-smart TV instead. At least one company, Sceptre, still makes them. (I don't want to make it seem like I'm shilling for a particular brand, but I genuinely don't know of any other options, aside from commercial signage displays.)

[–] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago

Sounds like they might have the capability to just network block the device from their router too. At least that's what I do, just in case someone tries to use it.

[–] Dickarus@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (13 children)

A cheap computer/laptop. HDMI cable. Ublock origin (sprinkle some sponserblock and privacy badger in there). A TV that is never connected to the internet. Voila. No ads. None. Zilch. Zero. Ad free.

Streaming platforms that have gone to ad supported formats make me laugh because it's just a 3-5 second black screen, not the ad, and it's back to the content. Been doing it for decades. Don't sit there and get reamed by their bullshit.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago

It's come full circle.

Back in the early 00s, I invited my buddy over to watch the super bowl commercials. Neither one of us gave a damn whatsoever about football, put the commercials were always lit.

[–] mac@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Tangentally related, FUTO put a bad taste in my mouth when they were harassing the graphene os team https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/113443396794247106

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I made my Smart TV into a dumb TV by never activating the smart TV functions. And then I plugged a relatively cheap computer into it. So I don't have this kind of problem.

[–] Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Your grandma does.

I installed her TV and internet last week. She barely understands the concept of switching TV inputs, and her Roku smart TV doesn't let you rename inputs from HDMI1 to [ISP NAME] unless the thing is connected to the internet. It also defaults out of the box to show the smart TV bullshit every single time you turn it on, instead of just showing the last used input before the TV turned off. So she's completely baffled how to watch simple television channels unless I spend 10 minutes reconfiguring this garbage so it's usable.

Go visit your grandma, everyone. And reconfigure her smart TV. I'm joking but I'm not. I can only visit so many grandmas per day.

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[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I have a very old 4K Toshiba TV with a built in "smart browser" that, due to me never plugging into the Internet, has a home page with news about how well Obama's doing in the polls for being a relatively unknown junior senator.

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[–] aprehendedmerlin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 71 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Most smart TV OS are Cancer doesn't matter how much you paid for it

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why the fuck does your television have a home page?

Never give the TV the wifi password.

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[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Disable all internet functionality, set the time to the 1990s to prevent many timers from going off, attach the tv to another device that doesn’t have ads via your cable of choice. But why was your smart tv 1700? Did it have some special features?

[–] TheBeesKnees@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Not disagreeing, but at some point this won't be enough. Assuming companies aren't already, "offline" devices will get shipped with the ability to utilize unsecured networks and/or other devices. Better hope any neighbors are privacy conscious too.*

(they're not)

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

I’ve been recommending physically snipping radios, but that can cause issues if you don’t understand what you’re doing. Any chance you know whether it’s possible to simply delete drivers and backups on modern smart tvs? Mine is ancient, so I have no clue what they’re doing to y’all, nowadays.

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[–] bluelander@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I bought a new TV last year after my Hisense kicked the bucket and had a similar experience.

Not sure if it applies to your situation, but I just factory reset my TV, never enabled wifi, and hooked up a smart device I had lying around (Nvidia Shield). Now it all works great and if the smart functions upset me I can throw just the smart TV part in the trash and go back to my VCR.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You have to reject smart TVs at the time of purchase, or manufacturers think this shit is okay and will keep escalating until even an Nvidia Shield won't save you.

[–] bluelander@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

Unfortunately options are becoming increasingly limited. My guess is that they're making more money cramming in ads for people that tolerate it than they are losing money from people who refuse it.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 29 points 2 days ago (19 children)

Apple TV was the best media thing I’ve bought in over a decade. No ads ever, incredibly responsive (league of its own compared to stuff like Roku), and is able to stream from my Jellyfin server. Beautiful interface, fast, clean, simple controller with a battery life that is easily over a year. Just a really good product. Roku can suck by nuts. Literal full page ads in a product that advertises that it has zero of them. Even the most expensive version. Fuck Roku.

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