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1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here
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That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).
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The only dangerous minority is the rich.
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Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.
"Leftists" and strawmanning vegans because you're mad that following your ideology consistently would require relatively minor life changes. Name a more iconic duo.
How the fuck are you going to build an equal and fair society when learning how to boil beans is too much sacrifice? Clowns.
"I am willing to struggle against injustice, I know it will be a long road and that many will be killed brutally. Standing up for my ideals will cost me personally, and if it comes to revolution I may be tortured and executed."
"Ok, eat your veggies"
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How the fuck are you going to build an equal and fair society when learning how to boil beans is too much sacrifice? Clowns.
I don't see people opposed to beans nearly so much as I see them desiring of ground beef. Go into any vanilla Mexican Restaurant worth its salt and you can find both.
I wouldn't call "giving up meat" a minor life change so much as I'd call it giving up a simple and abundant luxury. The fact that it comes through the suffering of an animal whose fate is totally obscured to you matters about as much as the cheap plastic bobble head lining your desk bothers you for being produced in a sweatshop.
A lot of this is simply structural. Tastes developed through childhood. Supply chains built out over generations. Advertising and cultural norms baked into the adult human consciousness over a lifetime. They won't change optionally. They'll have to shift as a matter of necessity.
Only after you have generations of people who are adapted and accustomed to a near-to-total vegan diet (as we've got for the billions living throughout Southeast Asia, Africa, and Latin America) are you going to see a serious shift in human behavior. This isn't just going to be a nation's worth of individuals making personal lifestyle changes.
If we took away strawmanning, there wouldn't be much Internet left.
That's a perception problem. It's not that boiling beans is a big sacrifice - I do it all the time - I'm just not convinced that killing animals and eating them is bad. But I wouldn't do that to a person, and I'm in favor of universal health care, basic income, and treating people equally. Not giving cows and chickens the same consideration doesn't make someone incapable of working for a fair and equitable society. You're doing the same "if you aren't 100% on my side you're the enemy" thing that you seem to be accusing the other person of.
Boiling beans takes so much time though. But canned beans are cheapish and healthier than that microwave dinner.
I bought a bag of tvp and I fucking hate it. it is not a good mix-in for ramen, which is pretty much the only use case I've come up with. but it's such cheap protein! can you keep me make it yummy?
TVP just needs flavouring with a sauce. you can use it to make e.g. https://theeburgerdude.com/vegan-burger-patties/#recipe, https://lovingitvegan.com/vegan-ground-beef/#recipe mixed into something like this https://minimalistbaker.com/1-hour-vegan-shepherds-pie/ and so on.
I often add it to things with lentils to add more chew, like to vegan burritos and so on. Just make a stock and soak then prior, and add flavour elements. Usual directions for me are earthy spices and herbs.
I'll look into it. thanks
vegantheoryclub has a veganrecipes community, and there's a discord with many tasty foods (often a bit on the healthy side for my taste ;) ) linked there or in the homecooks comm.
If you're used to the excess of a western diet it's a little to learn, but really it's just moving away from using fat and meat so much to spices and sauces.
Dunno why you got downvoted. expressing a personal reaction and asking a question should be fine..
TVP is pretty good as a mince alternative for bolognese. You can also use it in hearty stews - like a mushroom and TVP stew with mashed potatos.
Caveat is that cooking with meat is a lot easier, you need to be more thoughtful with spices and stock and salt and getting the balance right when cooking without it. There are vegetarian chicken and beef stocks that are great for stews.
thanks
Ramen is awesome if you just sautee some sliced onions and/or bell peppers, carrots if you have them, green onions, whatever, then add the water and make the ramen. Toss the seasoning packet and add some soy sauce and I recommend Hoisin sauce plus any kind of hot sauce. While it's cooking take half a dozen frozen shrimp (affordable in a big bag) and thaw them in a bowl of hot water for a minute so you can get the tails off, and dump them in when the ramen is done. They finish thawing and cool down the ramen so you can eat it immediately. It's a feast!
I'm trying to use up this bag of tvp.
My sympathies. I hear it makes good garden mulch.
How are you gonna build an equal and fair society when learning how to bridge the gaps to the huge sections of population that don't share your ideology is too hard?
I mean.... Yeah.
I think a not insignificant amount of infighting definitely harmed the Democrats election run. Among many other issues as well, but the infighting on the left is ludicrous.
You can have two people agree on 90% of things but because they have 10% of a disagreement now they can't work with each other anymore. It's hilarious and depressing.
You can have two people agree on 90% of things but because they have 10% of a disagreement
I believe the views of the DC leadership are heavily divorced from the median voter. Whether you're talking about Medicare expansion, civil rights, student debts, or our current spat of overseas occupations, conflicts, and genocides, the gulf is far larger than 10%.
We fixate on a few key issues as a litmus test for ideological sympathy. But the idea that Pelosi, Schumer, and Harris genuinely share the views and understandings of your median Pennsylvania or Arizona voter... hell, even your Vermont or California voter, hasn't born out.
The class divide is wide and even the most progressive-seeming liberals don't seriously want to bridge the gap.
What do you think the median voter actually wants? Because I've asked that question on lemmy before and I was first downvoted and then they listed off things that only the most far left people would actually want.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but I don't think the average Lemmy user has their finger on the pulse of even a moderate left voter very well.
I don’t care if you’re vegan or not. I care if your an authoritarian defending hierarchies masquerading as a leftist.
Yes I for sure am an FBI agent or a paid actor or whatever delusion is needed for you to dismiss my point because you don’t want to actually have to consider the substance.
Uh, bottom left guy: relax, those eggs aren't even fertilized.
