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[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 17 points 1 day ago

Yeah jail everyone doing piracy too (they also might do that lmao) im reporting every republican I know using an illegal firestick,ill make california blue

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 44 points 1 day ago

They'll sing praises of the "free market" all day, until it stops going their way.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago
> be european
> deepseek gets banned
> "hardfork" it to a european hosted gitlab instance
> see openai and xai tears flowing again
[–] teagrrl@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 day ago

Guess you'll have to jail all the chuds and libs who typed "Tienanmen Square Massacre" so they could post the screenshot on Reddit as some kind of gotcha on China.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So we've gone from banning books to banning apps.

could face up to 20 years in jail, a million dollar fine, or both.

So I'd get less for stabbing someone.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 9 points 1 day ago

And you wouldn't believe how less it gave you for stealing millions from a pension fund.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago

Lmao.

The theory that the builders of Empire were the ones that understood it, and the inheritors of Empire are true believers in the false justification the builders gave and thus defeat itself when given the reigns is coming more and more true.

[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Ima download it even harder now

[–] vfreire85@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

oh, these third world dictatorships with no consideration for individual freedoms and human rights...

no, wait.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Cool! Do a flip next.

Might as well go all the way if you're doing stunts.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 87 points 2 days ago

In the United States you get sent to prison if you use the wrong slop machine

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 54 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A dying empire doing everything it can to delay the inevitable. We really are watching the beginning of the end of the US hegemony aren't we?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

The theory that the builders of Empire were the ones that understood it, and the inheritors of Empire are true believers in the false justification the builders gave and thus defeat itself when given the reigns is coming more and more true.

[–] JOMusic@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Prof Richard Wolff has a great analysis of things: https://youtu.be/9u4A0D_Wc9c

[–] logos@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

As usual. Love that guy.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 62 points 1 day ago (2 children)

US doing exactly what they accuse Communist China of doing exhibit 420

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago

Yeah that TikTok ban is paying off already! We really saved the children this time!!! WAhooo!!!! \s \s \s

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 15 points 1 day ago

You're supposed to fine companies, not jail people wtf

[–] GooseFinger@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Anybody have a mirror link? It'd be a shame if I accidentally downloaded it.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 97 points 2 days ago (2 children)

As well as banning research. Absurd overreach of government and it will accomplish the opposite of what it wants.

[–] ViaFedi@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

It’s definitely not because it’s a competitor to Grok (x.ai) who just spend $6 billon on GPUs or anything

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (18 children)

Unless the goal is actually sabotage

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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 16 points 1 day ago

Hawley introduced the legislation, titled the Decoupling America’s Artificial Intelligence Capabilities from China Act, on Wednesday of last year.

For people who see this, I think they meant "last month."

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 49 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Anyone who doesn't know how to (safely!) pirate books, articles, films, games and software, please read, use and share the resources over at !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

This skill is increasingly useful.

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[–] mat@jlai.lu 4 points 1 day ago

Can't even respect their own anthem

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 48 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Rom@hexbear.net 35 points 2 days ago

HELL YEAH I'M GONNA BREAK THE LAW explosion skeleton-motorcycle explosion

[–] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"American Liberty", ladies and gentleman.

[–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

another great day of not being an american

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 34 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The whole globe is sliding right. It's not a great day for anyone.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Sliding right and left. It's becoming more polarized as Empire decays.

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[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Didn't I just read an article about Apple wanting to use it. It's open source it can be forked and be American tomorrow. No matter how much Openai crys. This just shows the true lack of any knowledge on the subject. I'm not a fan of the Chinese government as much of the next guy. But the information is out there.

[–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honest Questions Can a model be open source? Dont we need the data it was trained on to truly be able to reproduce, understand and modify it?

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No a model is a model now if you are talking a chat bot or ai app yeah you need the data and that data changes all the time but if I have the model I can supply my own and get simalr results to their model if the data I need is the same. The code is right here https://github.com/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3?tab=readme-ov-file I can get the models from https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3-Base and train them further and redistub that model legally. Per

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[–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Okay let's talk terminology

I meant the useable application as a for example chat bot.

The model itself is useful as far as it enables me to understand the underlying logic of the whole thing right? But without the data and I guess a training period with it I can't use it if I understood it correctly.

If I am right with the above this wouldnt make it useful as in I can reproduce it as a functioning application and I wouldn't call that opensourve in my understanding of the word.

[–] markinov@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

I don't know much as i ain't knowledgeable in ML and LLM, but i downloaded deepseek R1 7B model (which probably is the weights and architecture) from huggingface and it worked with no "data". So i can say it's reproducible. Now does that make it open source?

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[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

they want to jail people who use Deepseek

but not people who use Tiktok or Xiaohongshu
XHS has been out for weeks longer than Deepseek yet no action

this means that Deepseek is way more important and Sam Altman or someone else has tremendous power over the US government compared to facebook/google executives?

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[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Good thing I've just accepted a faculty position outside the US.

I'll get to move to a country that doesn't persecute academics and I think I'm just beating the crowds on the way out.

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[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 2 days ago
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