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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 25 minutes ago (1 children)

Trump is so horrible he got Americans to side with the country putting retaliatory tariffs on them.

Also it should be pointed out that Trump essentially declared war on an ally because he wanted to seize Canadian land.

Any talk about drug trafficking is silly since the first thing Trump did was pardon one of the biggest drug traffickers in the world, Ross Ulbricht

[–] cheet@infosec.pub 1 points 11 minutes ago

Wait, the Dread Pirate Roberts got pardoned? How does that fix anything???

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 35 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

We are actually seeing the us get destroyed by a mad king. Never let conservatives forget that they ushered in a man who intentionally tried to destroy their country.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 15 points 2 hours ago

Yes, yes, but "Daddy's home, you guys! And he has his belt off! Yah-fucking-hoooooo! 'merica gunna be so gud noaw! Egg prices? What egg prices? Everything else is even more expensive, too, but we were for low prices before we were AGAINST them!"

This gives stupid people a real chubby, so we should all have to suffer for their stupid feels.

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[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 37 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

They should have made it 26%. Trump wouldn't be able to resist upping it to 27%, and they could just spend a day reaching the logical, yet stupid, conclusion to this mess.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 55 minutes ago

Infinite % tariffs?

That is amazing idea

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sure the Kamala timeline would have been Just As Bad (TM).

[–] kava@lemmy.world -1 points 41 minutes ago (1 children)

Kamala would have been at best delaying the inevitable. The DNC is not capable of meaningfully changing fast enough to react to the growing threat of fascism.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 8 points 20 minutes ago

Delaying the inevitable seems like a much better option than, you know, the inevitable

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 20 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

If this escalates, wait until Canada decides to stop buying US made weapon systems. It will be expensive and time consuming to retrain, but the US is not a reliable defense partner under the neo-Nazi GOP. The US MIC must see the writing on the wall.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 10 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

We really should have gone with the Gripen.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 3 points 44 minutes ago

The Saab Gripen is one of the best deals available and there should have been more customers.

[–] Mescalito@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago
[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 54 points 5 hours ago (10 children)

American here.

Don't counter with tarrifs. Counter with embargoes. Trump loaded you a gun and handed it to you. Pull the fucking trigger already.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 47 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

Counter by decriminalizing everything to do with violations of US intellectual property. Ignore all US patents. Let Canadian drug companies make pharmaceuticals without having to pay for a US license. Let repair shops disable the DRM systems that prevent HP printers from accepting any old generic ink. Let Canadian broadcasters show US movies and TV shows without kicking back money to Hollywood. Let Canadian farmers repair their tractors without first kicking back money to John Deere. Allow anybody who wants to to jailbreak iPhones, and sell kits that allow other people to do that. Free Canadians from having to kick 30% of every purchase back to Apple in California.

[–] EchoCranium@lemmy.zip 10 points 50 minutes ago (2 children)

That was Cory Doctorow's recent take on it too. Trump just threw out the trade agreement with Canada and Mexico he was so proud to say was his accomplishment, after renegotiating NAFTA. They really should say fine, stew in your own mess. Ignore patents, crank out cheap pharmaceuticals, forget about DRM. Nationalize US factories on their soil. Will hurt for a while until new trade is established, but there is the whole rest of the planet to trade with.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 2 points 39 minutes ago

Nationalize US factories on their soil

This is extreme and could warrant an invasion from the US. Wars have been fought for less. Look at what happened to Guatemala when they wanted to take back some of the half off their farmland owned by Chiquita.

Canada is a mid-sized power but not really in a position to flaunt US power like that

[–] sibachian@lemmy.ml 1 points 39 minutes ago

the rest of the world is too chicken shit. there is no rest of the world to trade with as the us cries to everyone that they need to embargo nation X.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 23 minutes ago

Counter by giving Luigi Mangione diplomatic immunity.

[–] Dumpdog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 25 minutes ago* (last edited 25 minutes ago)

I wish this comment (merc's comment) would get bumped to the top of every post related to the tariffs. Tit for tat tariffs is stupid with predictable results. Strategic tariffs and other targeted mean of retaliation are better. Why is there only a 10% tariff on oil? Because the US needs Canada's oil. You fuck with our economy we fuck with the resources we give you at a discounted rate. Look at CUSMA (hehe. or NAFTA or whatever broken trade agreement that was) and target the industries that the (US) wanted to protect.

And for people using the tired fight analogies - just because someone tries to punch you in the face doesn't mean you punch them back in the face. You have already been training to kick them in the fucking balls.

Tit for tat tariffs is just political posturing for weak leadership.

[–] amon@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

Sounds like heaven to me

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

We're doing both. Both BC and Ontario are cutting off American Booze. That's gonna hurt American company's hard.

My hope if Trump keeps it up we cut off the power, and better yet the gas. Although that might make him try to invade or something.

Up next will be him calling Canadians Nazis and trying to annex Quebec.

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 20 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Grow a spine and make it 100 percent. The quicker trumps masters learn it wont work the better.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 4 points 52 minutes ago

I think the idea is to let trump continually be the one who escalates, with the hope that the American public notice it's him and not those evil Canadians who are stealing America's trade deficit.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That's an emotional response. You don't win with emotion, you win with a pragmatic strategy.

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 13 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Tariffs hurt the country imposing them the most

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