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[–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

They're not mutually exclusive, do both

[–] Odd_so_Star_so_Odd@lemmy.world -4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

General strikes are outlawed and illegal under the taft-hartley act. Fight at the polls to overturn it.

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[–] lemmingthelemmers@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

Cancel your amazon and cancel your health insurance. Everyone same time. Then watch the freak out begin.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

electoral politics DOES get the job done, just not to the same standard as the popular vote.

The problem is that the people who WANT things to change for some reason, don't seem to vote.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Never be deceived that the rich will allow you to vote away their wealth.

Lucy Parsons

Not a single one of our rights has ever been won via electoral politics, they have been won with a great deal of violence against the state and capitalism.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

violence just happens to be alongside most of the electoral politics, i'm pretty sure we still voted for shit like, womens suffrage, and civil rights. Shit like gay rights as well.

Activism is an important part of politics no doubt, but to say that not voting and killing people will magically make legislation get passed is just fucking mentally deranged.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Women suffrage, civil rights, gay rights, labor rights, all of them had many acts of violence before anything meaningful came of it. Rights are never given, they are fought for with blood, sweat, and tears.

Violence is the only language the state understands, and unless people speak to them in their language they dont hear a thing. Violence is not just physical, its also mental and economical

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago (4 children)

that's only part of it, you can't just start killing people and expect something to change, you'll get killed or executed by the government instead. Just look at the recent unitedhealth thing.

Violence is the only language the state understands, and unless people speak to them in their language they dont hear a thing. Violence is not just physical, its also mental and economical

they also understand legislation, it's literally their entire fucking job. If you don't believe me, go look at the 27th amendment.

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[–] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 105 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The owners would last 10 days, especially if the duration was announced ahead of time. Maybe a general strike that had no end date, once it went 3 months or so, would have the desired effect.

Going Luigi on a bunch of them would be faster, more effective, with stronger effects that lasted longer. Probably fewer total deaths.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

nah. the guy luigi killed was replaced instantly. i don't think they even cancelled that meeting he was going to.

it was effective to give them a good scare and brought a little bit of class consciousness to the people but it fundamentally wont change things.

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[–] cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Be prepared! A general strike is scheduled for Mayday 2028, with UAW and CTU.

SAVE AND PLAN WHAT YOU CAN!

So that you can strike yourself, and so that you can help your neighbors, your coworkers, your comrades strike!

We've got 3 more years to prepare for ~10 critical days. If we are all serious about it and spread the word, and are truly prepared for the event, our demands and thus our conditions will improve greatly!

It is up to us.

Do we choose to accept the working situation we have become entangled in, or are we willing to sacrifice for something better?

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Isn’t that part of what made the Occupy Movement so threatening to capitalists? The problem was however that it had no direction. The point was disruption, but there wasn’t a clear goal or demand till the end.

I’m all for memes, but what specifically would a general strike accomplish other than the governing class using every method, including police violence and fear, to immediately try to suppress the opposition?

In a society where the majority of people live paycheck to paycheck (by design) a 10 day strike will never happen. You’d be lucky to get 5% of the populace to participate.

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[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, electoral politics won't ever get the job done, however we're also long past the point of a general strike being enough on its own.

Fascism has been here longer than people are comfortable to admit, but it is going in to full blast mode now, and the masks are well and truly off, those in power will not hesitate to use whatever force they need to to maintain it, and that requires full forced self defence in return, not playing nice (which is what a strike is).

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

the american government has ariel bombed its bombed its citizens before. they will do it again. and i will point out the workers who got bombed last time knew that was a possibility. they were storming machine gun emplacements for the right to only work 40 hours a week. our ancestors fought to the death to make our world more survivable for us

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Meanwhile, people today don't have enough gumption to quit their shit job and try another one.

Last two perfectly good jobs I left was because they annoyed the fuck out of me. Got a 30% and 50% pay bump both times. Hell, even if you can't do that, you can at least move laterally.

Quiet quitting is for losers. QUIT

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[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They have enough money to hold out for 10 days. Your rent is still due, and you’re broke—as intended. Good luck.

[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It's called solidarity and community, look it up, in fact go learn some actual labour history before you make any more assertions about a subject you clearly know nothing about

[–] BeefPiano@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

This reply is a great way to alienate people who are interested enough in a general strike to get in a thread and point out questions that literally everyone will have.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Now you know why they own all the media.

[–] Delta_V@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Rich people spreading propaganda to advance their interests is the origin of media, and its reason for still existing. There has never been a time when they haven't owned all the media.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

So there's no media, either now or in all of human history, that hasn't existed specifically to advance the interests of rich people?

Really?

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