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Comic is Classic X-Men Issue #54 https://batcave.biz/reader/17480/118617

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[–] Alisu@hexbear.net 6 points 5 hours ago

Magneto: let's decomission all nuclear weapons and have peace X-men: but what about freedom?

The thing about magneto is that he was right a lot of the time but other times he was that image of those black dudes whipping the white guys in a cottonfield but completely unironically

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 27 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Magneto is the first villain who got hit with the "oh shit he's right, make him kick a puppy" ray

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 25 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The problem is that Marvel keeps making Humanity the Hitler-Sapiens so even apocalypse's kill all humans theory starts becoming more justified

[–] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 24 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

One of the nice ambiguities of Magneto is his costume. Traditionally prime colors (the art ones not physics) are for heroes and secondary for villains or “monstrous” heroes like the Hulk and Thing. There are some exceptions but most golden to Bronze Age heroes fit this pattern. Once you see this you can’t unseen it everywhere.

Magneto though is one of the few/earliest with both a primary color (red) and secondary (purple). The contrasting heroic and villainous aspects of his character.

Also red is traditionally a color of revolution and purple of monarchy, so he contains that contradiction as well. He is both the mutant revolutionary but also would be mutant king.

Finally he has a cape which are less common in marvel but still generally heroic garment, but then he has a sinister looking helmet which is more of a villain item. Often when he is more heroic he is depicted sans helmet and putting it on is when he descends into villainy (it’s telepathy blocking was actually invented by the movies).

[–] geese_feces@hexbear.net 14 points 21 hours ago (2 children)
[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 12 points 20 hours ago

Second panel Magneto walking has emoji potential

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 11 points 20 hours ago

I always admire comic book characters ability to speak a full sentence while being pummeled or launched into the air

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The reason X men doesn't work is because the main villain is basically the only person in the universe that is thinking about anything

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I gotta be real, if that universe existed and I lived in it i would be nervous that any random can just get the power to control the weather and stuff at that kind of scale. A lot could go real bad real quick. Some teenager finds out he creates a nuclear explosion when he stomps his feet or things along those lines being a factor would be really scary.

[–] murmelade@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

Just wait for the next comic where everything is reset you can forget all about it.

[–] Nacarbac@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think there've also been multiple global infections - viral, psychic, and nanotech - that were all designed to either make people hate mutants (more), randomly make them into mutants, or just plain ol' kill mutants. Marvel Earth is cursed.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 12 points 23 hours ago

There's already mass shootings all the time, throwing mutants into that mix is no good. However mutant Luigi

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago

This is increasingly where the world is heading, so it's actually quite prescient! Read X-Men spinoff novella "Infect Your Friends and Loved Ones"

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 49 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Need to have a Magneto movie, I'm thinking the plot is that he wants to stop the government from doing fashy shit, gets stopped by the X Men because Professor X wants to vote the fash out of office, the fashy shit happens exactly like the fashy government guys said it would, Magneto gets busted out of plastic jail by radicalized former X Men, saves the world by killing a bunch of fashy government dudes. Film ends with him standing by Prof Xs grave, who was killed by the FBI, and teasing a sequel where he will fully overthrow the government. It'd be the best X Men film since Logan.

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There was supposed to be one but then they fucked up X-Men Origins: Wolverine enough that it got turned into X-Men First Class instead

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 12 points 23 hours ago

Cowards couldn't even let Magneto actually destroy that Navy squadron.

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 14 points 22 hours ago

:marge-holding-potato: I just think he's Mag-neato

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 44 points 1 day ago

picard-annoyed "What gives you the right to decide humans should stop destroying the planet and themselves so we can all live in a golden age of prosperity?!"

(Ignore Professor X's Star Trek cosplay)

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago

WHO DOES HE THINK HE IS? STALIN?

[–] Guamer@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago (4 children)

So what is Magneto's goal in regards to non-mutants exactly? Enslave them? Kill em all? Something else?

[–] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 7 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Usually he’s more about making a mutant homeland that ranges from pro-national liberation metaphor to pro-Zionism metaphor depending on the author.

[–] Ericthescruffy@hexbear.net 18 points 23 hours ago

As with all things comics: it depends on the writer. Some writers do approach him as a genocidal mutant supremacist who sees humanity as inferior beings....but thats frankly boring and shallow. The more interesting take on magneto is that he's basically a pragmatic fatalist. His experiences in the Holocaust and the nature of mutation and evolutionary history have convinced him that coexistence simply isn't possible. Tragic though it may be, a genocidal war that ends with one survivor is unavoidable and inevitable.

To this point...he's had several solutions he's been open to. He's seen killing them all as the most likely outcome but he's also considered complete peaceful separation or even co-existsnce.

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

During Claremont's run (this issue is from that run) it was conquer humanity and rule via an enlightened monarchy until they went extint naturally like it happened with neanderthals

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 19 points 23 hours ago

wut what no theory does to a mf

[–] Pili@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's probably different with each reboot and timeline. In the first movie, he built a machine in the statue of liberty to turn everyone into a mutant I think.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Look that sounds great, but you killed some people (who admittedly also killed a LOT MORE people and were trying to kill you) so were gonna have to overthrow you in the name of freedom and democracy."

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 30 points 1 day ago

The Marvel Way.

[–] MoreAmphibians@hexbear.net 17 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Was his organization still called "The Brotherhood of Evil Mutants" at this point?

[–] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 28 points 22 hours ago

To quote tumblr

like you all wouldnt be hyped as fuck to join a gay rights club called the “brotherhood of evil gays”

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 11 points 23 hours ago

He was solo in this issue.

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Magneto and some versions of Dr. Doom are way too sympathetic at points.

So naturally they have the do random evil shit at points like being friends with Captain Israel.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't Dr. Doom know all futures and is the only one smart enough to save humanity or something?

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 3 points 18 hours ago

No clue. I'm more of a Dark Horse guy.

[–] SaniFlush@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That woman who was so callous that The Hulk was too disgusted to smash her and just left?

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago

Is she still gonna be in the new marvel slop or did they actually cut her?

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Usually when a person tries to change it for thw better make it utopian or some shit, even with less side effect, there is always some shit like "oh youre trying to play god" or life is meaningless without struggle. Then in the next couple of issues there is the reminder that there exists the plane of hell where countless innocents are tortured for eternity and the so called villain you lectured probably would have rid the multiverse of it

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Watch Metallic Rouge, the Blanquist "villain" ultimately triumphs over the liberal antihero even after her death at the hands of an annoying determinist.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I love the guy in the foreground "YOU'VE GONE MAD"

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That would be dumb ass Cyclops.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago

one eye; checks out

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago

"Also we're doing this one evil thing because you mustn't agree with the villain"

[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

Least evil Mossad agent