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Donald Trump has wasted no time making his mark in his first week back in office, signing executive orders, delivering speeches and outlining his plans. Meanwhile, the Democrats are still absorbing their election loss in November and trying to chart a path forward. But despite the prevailing view that they are in trouble, their situation may not be as dire as it seems.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

The Democratic party is over.

We need a leftist party in the US again.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 19 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

They are playing nice with a party acting in bad faith.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

The Democrats have to please their rich donors.

It was never about helping their voters, just appearing as if they wanted to help was enough.

People are waking up to the fact that the Dems are as fucking useless as the Republicans.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

As is tradition for ~~rhythm~~ them

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 21 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

So, should I then attribute their collective inaction, lack of planning, and capitulation to malice instead?

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Hanlon's razor applies here.

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

So either they are malicious in their mistreatment of their voter base and America by letting Trump go scott free for 4 years, or they're stupid.

Either way, why would I put my faith into them?

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Hanlon's razor almost never applies to politics. Whatever they do can be assumed intentional and results assumed calculated.

Hold people accountable.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago

Hanlon’s razor almost never applies to politics.

Or companies.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 6 hours ago

They haven't been hurt at all. They're currently still working alongside overt fascists. Still collecting those paychecks and paypoffs from capital. Dems probably better of with Trump. That's why they run genocidal losing candidates.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 16 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I will be shocked if the Democrats learn anything from the last election. I fully expect the next election (assuming we even have one) that they'll be running on the exact same right of center platform that they've been using for the last few decades. The only way they win elections at this point is if Trump fucks up the economy enough that a significant chunk of his previous supports make protest votes against him. Odds of that happening are not great.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

I will be shocked if the Democrats learn anything from the last election.

We'll have a pretty good indicator in a couple days when the party elects its chair.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

They certainly did learn something. Something very, very important... to them. They learned that by moving far enough right they could rake in huge piles of money from the donor class that wants to keep progressives under heel. That's what they learned.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 hours ago

Let's be honest, they learned that in 2016.

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

Uh...they're not just wounded, they are straight up dead.

[–] Mammal@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

They aren't wounded - they just don't have actual values or strategy beyond bullying people to vote for them.

[–] JiveTurkey@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

They definitely should be wounded and if they're not then they've learned nothing.