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You can see it if you check https://fedidb.org/. Monthly active users have gone from just a hair under one million to somewhere around 1.4 million and still growing. How do we think this will go? How do we feel about this influx of new users? Has PixelFed done something different that Mastodon hasn't?

I feel like I didn't really recognize having different "platforms" like Mastodon, PixelFed, etc would give multiple opportunities for the fediverse to make a "first" impression with people.

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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 18 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I feel like I didn’t really recognize having different “platforms” like Mastodon, PixelFed, etc would give multiple opportunities for the fediverse to make a “first” impression with people.

Corporations have learned long ago the importance of properly identifying your audience, and the Fediverse is not exempt from that rule. Lemmy is the Fediverse version of Reddit and Mastodon is the Fediverse version of Twitter, and just like these two giants could live together with each other and also with Instagram without stepping on each other's toes, so do their Fediverse versions can live with the Fediverse version of Instagram, PixelFed.

Now we're just missing a Fediverse version of Facebook.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

And Nextdoor

[–] 7toed@midwest.social 13 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

There is Friendica... yeah the name doesn't roll of the tongue, and I only remember just for this comment.. no shade to it

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 2 points 17 hours ago

Zuck would sue if they'd called it FediBook.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy 13 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

First time i have posted on anything resembling insta in 111 weeks

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Same. It’s been fun! Just posting some of my film photography here and there, checking out other people’s 35mm work. 5-10min a day tops. It’s perfect

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder how many of those users are the same person with multiple accounts on different platforms.

[–] bradd@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

It's strange to me how quickly I get +/- feedback on lemmy compared to actual comments and the replies that I get are almost always zero effort compared to what I get on reddit.

I get the feeling its normal for lemmy users to create multiple accounts and use them to sort of multiply their votes. What's worse is mods can see who is voting and so should be able to do something about it... so are they as guilty?

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Has PixelFed done something different that Mastodon hasn’t?

Yes. The interface is good and familiar. The majority of the traffic is on one namespace where discoverability is good. Because of the nature of the medium, getting started with no algorithm is a lot easier to stomach than just looking at what your local people have to say.

This is not to bash Mastodon, but they need that algo, which is why Bluesky is hoovering up users. Also, their UI, depending on the server is more tweetdeckish, which might scare off a lot of casuals.

edit: I've been informed the bsky has no algo, so somehow they seem to be getting better results in discover, perhaps single name space or perhaps they have something behind the hood.

Also, to start with, all the journalists FLOODED info, Mastodon, without any algo; you just got a hundred wordsmiths screaming past each other and they all immediately followed each other, so you couldn't just find people like Jeff Jarvis, you got to see everyone he had a professional experience of which is WAY more than anyone is prepared to read :)

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago

The main Mastodon instance with their official app has discoverability. The difference is so much different from what I normally use - a 3rd party app and a 3rd party instance

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bluesky doesnt have an algorithm for its discover feed (the default), or at least it didn't used to have one, but provides an API for building your own feeds which lets you do whatever you like.

Bluesky's big growth was from the fact it was, like PF, easy to use and easy to navigate, and all the content was on one namespace.

Lemmy is an outlier imo. You can interact and repost and find content on different instances easily. Mastodon made following feeds from different instances nearly impossible which turned me off it permanently even if I believe in its value over Bluesky.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Bluesky doesnt have an algorithm for its discover feed

For not having one, my Discover feed was pretty dead on. Maybe just luck or maybe it was the right time for the right facebook influx.

edit: they might have one https://www.reddit.com/r/BlueskySocial/comments/1g9zzca/bluesky_dosent_have_an_algorithm_so_what_is_the/

Lemmy is an outlier

Lemmy is damn close to Reddit's mental design, but instead of 27 different subs for news on one place, there are 2-3 different places that have a news sub. news@here and news@there isn't hard to grasp, I think the platform works remarkably well.

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[–] Azerick@lemm.ee 4 points 19 hours ago

Gonna check this out. Looks interesting thanks.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I find it sort of shocking that you didn't think people who use different types of social media would be swayed by non-micro blogging specific platforms. Nobody wants to join the fediverse because it's the fediverse. They want to join something that's fun and similar to what they're used to.

Micro blogging sucks. I hate it. I've always hated Twitter and none of that hate has come from anything related to who has owned it or their policies. I've just genuinely never felt a desire to communicate with 280 characters (historically 140). The discussion threads are also garbage and all over the place. Why would someone who is used to platforms like Reddit or Instagram want to use Mastodon?

Has PixelFed done something different that Mastodon hasn't?

Yes, it's done "not be a micro blogging platform".

I'm aware Mastodon doesn't always have the same character limits that Twitter does, but that's apart from the point.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

I really enjoy Mastodon. Writers create threads to get around character limits. I actively search out others so I don't need algorithms to chose for me. If you want spoon-fed it's not for you though.

[–] drapermache@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I'm excited. I'm one of those users, but I haven't used it much because I can't find followers. To be fair, I never used Instagram. I like the fediverse, I usually see the same articles get sent through other centralized communities other than reddit (tildes, hacker news, etc), but I enjoy the community discussion the best around here.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 2 points 17 hours ago

Go back to the absolute fundamentals of social media. Identify a few hashtags that have things you care about, for instance I browse a lot of #filmphotography posts.

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[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 38 points 1 day ago

Lemmy once had a massive influx of new users, a lot left again and monthly active users has remained somewhat constant for a long time now. Let's wait and see how many people actually stay on PixelFed.

[–] Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Lemmy is full of bad news, hate and toxicity while pixelfed is full of artists and people sharing cool pictures and their passion. Visiting my pixelfed account from 2023 a few days ago set such a contrast with what I see on lemmy that I started using it regularly. It really felt weird to visit such a wholesome place after using lemmy for a long time. Now I use pixelfed to balance out the bad stuff from lemmy for maintaining my mental health and to appreciate the art which is not common on lemmy.

[–] ThunderLegend@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I hear you. I'm getting tired of the massive amount of posts about trump and elon and politics. I don't see almost any new content about other stuff.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s like Reddit and you gotta filter out the bullshit. Adding Elon, Musk, Trump, and RFK to my block list improved my mental health quite a bit. Hopefully if it’s egregious enough it will slip through and I won’t be blind sided by some terrible thing they’re doing. That’s the only downside.

[–] spookex@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The problem is that Lemmy isn't at the point where I can browse it like I do on Reddit.

After the API thing killed my main reddit app, I just lurk on like 4 1 million+ user sports/video game/military meme subreddits and check on them every 1h/30min to see 10 new posts or any important news that happened. I check r/all maybe like once every few months.

The relevant lemmys just aren't that active or don't have low-effort post rules, so I'm kind of stuck browsing the front page of Lemmy if I want to see more than 10 posts per day

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

This is very true unfortunately. Maybe eventually but my fear is that when Lemmy gets that big it turns into Reddit

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[–] snoopy@peculiar.florist 4 points 1 day ago

@Martineski @koncertejo
Interesting, thank for your feedback.

For our instance jlai.lu, we try to balance bad news with the forum libre, where we can share picture, movie, book, some daily game...i think it work pretty well because everyone share what they love.

For News, we separated usa, israel-palestine from world news so it offers a place where anyone can post there or filter. And it let other communities breath.

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[–] leadore@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

We feel good.

[–] MysticKetchup@lemmy.world 162 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (16 children)
  1. The official Pixelfed app just has a nicer looking UI
  2. There's not really a competing app for people leaving Insta like there is Bluesky vs Mastodon
  3. Pixelfed's content is mostly visual so it's easily digestible to casual users and you don't have to scroll past dry Fedi arguments
  4. Better discover features so users don't have to do a bunch of legwork to find who to follow

Just my guesses though, but like any social media it really depends on if big creators will switch and if users stick with it over time

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[–] rivenskye@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago
[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 94 points 1 day ago (16 children)

The tide lifts all the boats... there is also a noticeable uptick in Lemmy registrations, at least here on our instance.

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[–] match@pawb.social 16 points 1 day ago (4 children)

that's cool, what's the furry instance

[–] potoo22@programming.dev 1 points 20 hours ago

I saw instafops.net was an options when I was browsing servers. idk anything else about it or even if it's popular. Not my kind of server, but figured I'd share since it's something I saw and you're looking for.

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