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It's okay, I'll see myself out ..
Europe.
The less interaction the UK has with the US over the next four years, the better.
*forty or four hundred, perhaps.
I believe there is a third way. A way pioneered by Labour in 2015 and carried forward to this day. The mmm ahhhh but... Now is not the time way.
I believe Labour will do absolutely fuck all to meaningfully reintegrate with Europe. And absolutely fuck all will happen with the US. Because Labour want to please both sides of their broad church: the Remainers and the Leavers.
Sorry lads, get used to it.
Maybe there will be some small movements towards more co-operation with the EU, but probably not any big moves for at least the next few years.
The UK could even join the EU customs union without joining the single market or the EU itself, like Turkey has done, but yeah it's probably unlikely for the moment. Labour don't want to take a big political risk I guess.
Spot on. They don't want to take risks in their first term. And with the economy not looking like they'd hoped after the budget they have less political capital to hedge on any bigger moves.I think even joining the EUCU would be too far.
Short of a massive schism in the political landscape where all Labour Brexitiers up and leave the party and all Tory Remainers up and leave their party with the two factions joining forces in some new party where the overall pro EU support has a majority I can't see anything happening for multiple terms. And that's not going to happen because politics is literally football in this country and it's all about the rivalry and very little else.
Set your sights on 2060 or beyond.
Imagine if this was the catalyst !
The way it looks to me right now - pressure mounts on practically every side, Labour popularity rises toward the election (its been said front loading unpopular stuff is deliberate), Tories start trying to distance themselves from Reform (to avoid becoming known America apologists for a start), relationship repair becomes a keystone of the 2029 - 2034 session.
Tenner says Labour will ignore the will of the people.
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