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Irv from mdr don't fuck around bruh
“Politics is the entertainment division of the military industrial complex.”
― Frank Zappa
This comment made a lot of sense in 1986, with Communism being at its very latest stages.
In 2025 it seems like that particular zombie is crawling out of its grave.
Are these communist threats in the room with us right now?
To be clear, though some folks like to make a big deal about someone being on .ml, I am not a communist, and the part that was significant to me was that our trajectory was being openly called by folks that far back, not any message regarding communism.
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. Probably by tankies who still think China is “communist”.
He got the fascist part right.
The theocracy though, that he got wrong. Our leaders only pay lip service to God: their true drive is money.
This isn't a theocracy: it's a broligarchy.
Every time a christian does something wrong, their christianity card gets revoked. Every other group has to collectively bare the responsibilities of a very few.
The laws banning abortion and porn are directly based on the Christian ideology of these people. It may not be your version and they may be hypocrites, but it’s still theocracy.
Theocrats are rarely true believers. We're headed towards the mammonite theocracy
You are going to see a rise of Dominionism in action over the next 4+ years. As long as Dominionism isn't in direct opposition to the oligarchy, it will continue to rise. See project 2025, prayer in schools, mandatory displays of the ten commandments, federal money going to religious schools, churches endorsing the republican party and not losing their tax-exempt statuses, etc..
Christian Zionism is in rude health in the US.
My understanding of actual theocracies might be wrong, but I imagine that the people on top of such structures know 100% absolutely that religion is just a tool to oppress and control the people.
No. It's steering toward theocracy. Thanks, Jerry fucking Falwell - may you rest in piss. The whole horror of what the US is living in now is thanks to that one greedy fuck. He was potentially going to lose money over desegregation because of properties he owned. His bright idea? Get evangelical Christians involved. It worked. This whole thing cascades into modern conservatism. Before Falwell got involved, most people considered abortion to be a Catholic issue. This fuck decided that involving evangelicals would once again make him money, so he used them. This is just the most blatant example of how things have gone. Laws have been written based on the bible as a sole source for at least 60 years, and the people involved thoroughly believe that it is the only acceptable moral or ethical code. The amount of laws that attempt to legally enforce a protestant idea of Christianity every day is insane. Thanks, Jerry, for sending the US down the path of Theocracy. We're nearly there - maybe another three years!
One might argue theocracy was always a grift.
Theocracy is always about lip service. The ones who are actually about service to God aren't concerned with power. Religion, as an institution, just provides a convenient "moral" claim to power to be exploited by power-hungry individuals.
Theocrats invoke the divine to rule. That's not Trump's and his rich backer's modus operandi. Trump only mentions God in passing when it comes to conning religious-minded people.
Trump is not the end all be all of political aspiration. His flavor was not the dominant streak at the time of this interview. Before, and beside, his relatively recent claim to political power were, and are, claims predicated on theocratic moral justification.
