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We don't need a third party. We need ranked choice voting.
We need like eight more parties. RCV won't change hardly anything if we stick with single-winner elections. Gotta switch to some form of proportional representation, like Sequential Proportional Approval Voting.
You're right that proportional representation (PR) would better reflect diverse political views, but RCV can still be a step toward breaking the two-party dominance. It lowers the barrier for third-party and independent candidates by reducing the "spoiler effect" and encouraging broader support. Ideally, combining RCV with multi-winner districts or systems like Sequential Proportional Approval Voting would create a more representative democracy.
Sorrrrrt of. It does reduce the spoiler effect, but ordinary Approval Voting does a better job. Note the chaos in competitive RCV elections. While these simulations are fairly simplistic, the concepts and lessons hold true when looking at real-world elections, more complicated simulations, and mathematical proofs.
How can you have ranked choice voting with only two parties?
Ranked choice voting still works with two parties by letting voters rank multiple candidates within those parties or include third-party/independent options. It helps ensure the winner has broader support, reduces "lesser of two evils" voting, and encourages more positive campaigning, especially in primaries.
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The best solution to the two parties excluding the left isn't a third party, it's for the left to register as Republicans and conduct a hostile takeover of the GOP in the primaries.
This can easily succeed in blue states/cities to start out.
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"Hey, let's vote for a candidate who literally cannot win from a party that hasn't done the necessary work to become nationally viable because I don't want to be part of the two party problem even though if we do so it will guarantee that a felon rapist who incited an insurrection, stripped women of a human right, and illegally attempted to overturn an election will win." - Dipshit 3rd Party Voters
Just as stupid as Trump supporters, as far as I'm concerned.
Well, they got what we told them they'd be getting. Why aren't they celebrating?
Thanks for helping Trump win! Palestine is so saved. This whole thing wasn't about you feeling morally superior at all.
But you're SUPPORTING GENOCIDE when you vote for the candidate most likely to get the fewest people killed! While the people of Palestine are about to be annihilated, my own right to marry is about to be taken away, and all of my trans friends are going to lose access to the drugs that keep them from killing themselves, I can rest easy knowing that I didn't engage with the system at all
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The only way to create a viable third party is to vote for them. America needs a third choice.
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The election is over, did you expect them to keep telling you to vote 3rd party when there is no election to vote for them in? Perhaps you noticed that all the "Vote Harris" commercials stopped too?
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I think the real problem was those that stayed home. Turnout wasn't great.
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I don't remember third party proponents. I remember the depression and realization that both parties continue to work hard to make this country suck more.