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But you're SUPPORTING GENOCIDE when you vote for the candidate most likely to get the fewest people killed! While the people of Palestine are about to be annihilated, my own right to marry is about to be taken away, and all of my trans friends are going to lose access to the drugs that keep them from killing themselves, I can rest easy knowing that I didn't engage with the system at all
Nope. Voting for the slightly less evil politician doesn't mean you support genocide anymore than pulling the lever means you support innocent people being run over by trolleys.
Close, but you fail to understand that a vote doesn't necessarily mean I support them. It could be that the only alternative would be significantly worse. It's actually a lot like the trolley problem, in that sometimes there is no good choice, only a least bad choice.
There were exactly two paths the trolley could go down as of November. You can pretend there weren't, but the only option any individual had other than Harris or Trump was to assassinate one or both, and I'm not interested in getting iced by the SS
Unless you think there's some magic number of comments you can make on the internet that will somehow convince enough voters to ditch the two main parties. Of course, you would have to be incredibly naive to believe in that magic number.
Edit: let's update the trolley problem to be more in line with this election. Imagine instead of two tracks, there are three: the Red Track has 5,000,000 innocent people tied to it. The Blue Track meets back up with the Red Track down the line, but skips past 4,500,000 of those people. The Green Track doesn't have anyone tied to it at all.
If the trolley goes down the Red Track, 5,000,000 people die. If the trolley goes down the Blue Track, only 500,000 of those people die. If the trolley goes down the Green Track, nobody dies. The choice is obvious, right? Pick the green track!
Except polling shows that 75 million people will be pulling the Red Lever, 75 million people will be pulling the Blue Lever, and less than 1 million people will be pulling the Green Lever. What Lever is most likely to save the most people?
It's Blue, the answer is Blue, because not enough people give a shit about Green to pull it, and too many people are zealously in favor of Red to dissuade them. The only way to prevent any deaths is to help get the Blue lever pulled.
Objectively false. More than three paths literally on the ballot. Ignoring the pre-November time frame. Ignoring the possibility of write-ins. You are deliberately leaving things out in your framing - you're lying.
Yes, I could have voted for anyone I wanted, and there were still only two people who could possibly have been elected. Any vote for anyone other than those two literally didn't impact the election.
Unfortunately I couldn't read this idiot's replies before they got nuked, but I'm pretty sure I saw something along the lines of "and yet Harris didn't win the election" in my notifications.
Harris got 48.4% of the votes, Trump got 48.9% of the votes, and no one else got even close to 1%. If you don't understand how Harris had a solid chance and Stein doesn't, I can only assume you're either a child who's never interacted with an election before, or a troll from a foreign country trying desperately to sow discord in America, because I do not believe that an adult can genuinely be that stupid.
Name an American politician that has committed genocide.
Andrew Jackson.
Fair point!
What did Hitler do? Spew rhetoric, tour around, and orchestrate/direct resources into genocide. That is precisely what the U.S. president and Congress have done. You may want to pretend the imaginary national line between Netanyahu and Biden somehow means Biden's hands are clean, but he has funded, armed, rhetorically supported, militarily supported, and blocked nearly every ceasefire effort at the UN Security Council against the genocide. It is a U.S. genocide, and everyone following it is completely aware of that. Why is it that you think State Department officials are resigning, and Aaron Bushnell lit himself on fire? It would be far quicker to name the U.S. politicians who aren't complicit in the genocide. Between Congress and the presidency, depending on how strict you want to be, that's between 1 and maybe 30 (Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, etc.)
Not even addressing that historically you don't even need to dispel that national boundary. Not even under George W. Bush. Yet alone the genocide of the Native Americans.
bUt hITLeR!!!
So…. You can’t name one. Thanks for playing.
Try again.
And you’re done because you have nothing. Listen dude… You swung, you missed. You’re not exempt from being called out, or being made to own your shit.
So…. You’re not.. done?
For the record, NONE of them committed genocide. None of them have the authority to do so. And none of them were even brought on charges for doing so.
Complicit? Perhaps. But not a single one of the people you mentioned committed the act at all.
What you’re doing here is angrily spreading blatant misinformation.
Absolutely tremendous brain energy
I simply voted for the person opposed to genocide. This isn't actually a democracy, so it's not like my vote mattered anyways.
So instead of the most reasonable candidate that has a chance of winning, you voted for someone else who had no chance of winning?
Thanks for making everything worse.
Who'd you vote for?
I voted PSL. I'm in a state where it was completely inconsequential.
Excellent
Single issue voters = duuuuuuuumb.
People who say "voting doesn't matter" = duuuuuuuuumb.
Genocide trumps all other "issues". If you are willing to sacrifice hundreds of thousands to millions of innocents to annihilation, your "stances" on every other issue are hollow rhetoric meant for your own advancement, and the difference of having you in power over anyone else is microscopic. Not understanding that genocide means a politician is pure evil is the fucking pinnacle of "dumb".
I am willing to sacrifice hundreds of thousands to save millions. You're willing to sacrifice millions to say you kept your hands clean. Don't act like you're the morally correct one.
Well said.
I am not willing to sacrifice anyone. Were it not for people like you, no one would be sacrificed at all. You have no vision for a way out of perpetual war and subjugation, rather, you condemn the rest of us to it.
Were it not for people like me, Trump would still have been elected. Were it not for people like you, an alternative may have had a chance.
No, people like you willing to sacrifice others are those who voted for both Harris and for Trump.
Do you genuinely believe the situation for Palestine is going to be equally bad under Trump as it would under Harris?
Did anyone see what his response was? I really wanna know if he acknowledged how much worse Trump is
If you think the death of people matters then why wasn't the climate your big issue? That will definitely kill millions (predictions on current path are that it will kill or displace over a billion). Don't get all high and mighty about your issue when it's not even close to being the biggest one
You will find the same acquiescence to the fossil fuel industry across the aisle as well. In actions, not in speech.
How compelling.