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I mean have they seen how good Ice Cubes and Mlem look? How can they choose the default Twitter and Reddit apps over those masterpieces.

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[–] Emperor 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is now the community's Top All Time post.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It beat the simpsons bar one!

[–] Emperor 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, kicked that back into third!

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 119 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I mean have they seen how good Ice Cubes and Mlem look? How can they choose the default Twitter and Reddit apps over those masterpieces.

No, they haven't. 99% of people have never heard of the fediverse or any app within it.

[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 65 points 5 days ago (3 children)

People here are so out of touch here; it's super interesting

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 49 points 5 days ago (6 children)

In a way, it's a good sign. The threadiverse is tight-knit and comprehensive enough to become people's primary social site. I've never seen any other reddit alternative get to this point.

[–] MrShankles@reddthat.com 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It became my primary. Had never heard/understood federated-internet anything before lemmy. And it's been a really good time here

Reddit is now just a Quora for me, when I'm using a search engine. I don't scroll Instagram, but just look at what (3) people send me. Facebook is for rare use-cases, so I haven't deleted my account. YouTube I watch, rarely scroll, and don't interact. And I think that's about it currently

Lemmy has it's own issues/flavor for sure... but I dig it. I learned my first forum basics from Something Awful, and there's a certain vibe here that reminds me of that. The fediverse (threadiverse? I haven't heard that term) feels like an internet community center or something

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[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I told everyone in my family, and it was one ear and out the other.

My sister told me the other day, "I didn't know I could add reddit it to my Google search and get better results." All I could think is, "you figured that out right when everything went to shit, damn."

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[–] kokopelli@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Honestly, I would use Lemmy more except that some posts are just people being overly negative or strangely political in the comments. There are good communities without this don’t get me wrong but it can get old

[–] m4xie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've found a massive reduction after blocking only a handful of users. It seems there are fewer of them than it first appears.

[–] kokopelli@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I might have to do that then, thanks! Might make my experience a bit better.

Also something I didn’t think about, there are enough users on Reddit to let the garbage comments sink to the bottom and not be seen. Here, you see them all

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

Yeah a lot of people on here have sticks up their butts hehe

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[–] Shortstack@reddthat.com 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (7 children)

If all the average users were here, it would be just as awful as Reddit became when it hit mainstream acceptance level.

Remember that subreddits there were quality when small but sort of became too large to have character after a certain threshold, I seem to recall 300k subscribers and up being about where that delineation was.

Lemmy could stand to be more popular, but not too popular or it would attract the bottom feeders that make stupid one liner comments and upvote wrong answers.

Enjoy the smaller lemmy while it lasts

Edited for clarity, gotta drop the reddit shorthand

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

"The problem isn't corporate, the problem is audience size."

Shut the fuck up about this.

Lemmy isn't anything right now. No impact or relevance, no practical effect in terms of community and influence. It's just small conversations and mild entertainment.

If you enjoy that, go ahead. But don't campaign to hold the whole fediverse project back.

Just get together in a niche instance with your small town types and defederate if the project successfully becomes a full fledged alternative. The Internet needs a successful full scale alternative to corporate social media to have a chance at recovery from enshittification.

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[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I guess most people don’t want to wade through dozens of “eat the rich” posts every time thay open their favorite social media platform.

[–] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Nah, people get overwhelmed by choosing a server instance.

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[–] kipo@lemm.ee 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Weird. That’s like my main kink.

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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Or any political content at all. Most people just want to look at funny cats or memes.

Other people want absurd humor without the racist degeneracy of other outlets.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I quit FB and reddit because they became mostly "kill all who don't work minimum wage at mcdonalds", "all minorities r bad" and "ukranians are nazis but check out this 3d model which is the next russian wundewaffe that will kill your countries civillians"

[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Honestly, if I weren't politically as far left as I am, lemmy would have scared me off a long time ago.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

And you need to be a particular kind of weird person to sift all the random posts. The average user actually wants an algorithm.

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[–] Goodie@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago

In other words: Advertising works.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 17 points 4 days ago (5 children)

You're talking about people that are content with "the internet" being google, facebook, instagram, snap, tiktok, youtube and twitter, nothing more.

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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Yeah, a lot of people have quit Twitter over Musk being a huge douche and migrated to... Blusky. And they think they've done something really great. It's sad.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 46 points 5 days ago (1 children)

To be fair, Twitter is so bad now that Bsky is an improvement.

And Bsky has to appear trustful as they need to attract users.

[–] Emperor 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's how they all begin.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 17 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Of course, but if the most urgent priority is to get people off Twitter, then Bsky is a better alternative at the moment.

Hopefully at some point Mastodon and Keyforks will catch up on discoverability

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago

Mastodon is not a twitter clone.

Bluesky is a twitter clone, without musk. That's all these people want. They've never heard about the fediverse. They're not protesting corporate centralism.

They just don't like twitter being a right wing agenda. They want a twitter experience circa before musk bought it, simply because it was left wing before.

That's bluesky. That's not mastodon.

[–] Godort@lemm.ee 25 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Bluesky is...fine. Currently, it operates the way that I wish Twitter did. It lets you curate your feed, it shows the feed in chronological order, and finally and most importantly it has a critical mass of users so there is actual content there, rather than every 5th post complaining about how everyone is on another platform or not using Linux.

Really, the only issue I have with it is that it is owned by a corporation. But like Twitter and Reddit, I am willing to abandon it for something else when it gets shittier.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I wish that lemmy had the population to sustain more niche communities.

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[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Lemmy doesn't have much to offer compared to the "billionaire run" social media.

[–] relic_@lemm.ee 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

This is the real answer. I forget the exact numbers, but the vast majority of people on reddit are just lurkers. When you have an enormous user base, that still translates to lots of content to consume. Lemmy has way less content and very small communities (if any) for most niches.

Of course you can point to bots on reddit inflating those numbers and that Lemmy has more meaningful interaction, but that's not what most are looking for that are on reddit.

Also, as others mentioned, there's no negative engagement algorithm drivers on mastodon like there is on Twitter. Fact is, a lot of people just like to be angry and combative.

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[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

We live in a time where you could have a really good alternative FOSS Platforms with all the cool bells & whistles

But they'll never join it because, "It ain't Youtube" or "muh favorite creator is not there" or that there's no large userbase

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 18 points 5 days ago (12 children)

It's unfortunate, but there's a real chicken-and-egg problem here. Those of us who are on here are here because of how strongly we believe in the ideal of it, but for the average person who just cares about talking about their favourite interests, there's a serious lack.

I'll use two examples, one that you clearly care about, and one that I do. /r/stopkillinggames is hardly super active, but in the last 3 weeks it's had 11 posts with a cumulative 68 comments. !stopkillinggames@lemm.ee, by contrast, has had just 8 posts, all by a mod, with just 6 total comments. /r/AgeofMythology is very active with artistic appreciation posts, balance discussion, and advice just within the last 24 hours. !aom@lemm.ee has failed to attract a single post from anyone other than myself, and it's been over 3 months since anyone other than myself has left a comment. It's disheartening, not being able to have conversations about the stuff you love, when you know that just over there it would be so easy.

Lemmy's excellent if you want to talk about politics, or open source, but there's not a huge amount outside of that. The Star Trek communities are pretty good, but they pale in comparison to a great sub like /r/daystrominstitute, and the amount and depth of discussion on ttrpg.network is slim compared to /r/pathfinder2e, /r/dndgreentext, /r/dndnext, etc. And these are some of the best-supported hobbies on Lemmy.

So as much as I'm staying here and trying to do my part to make it better, and frequently encourage others to join...I also can't really blame people who don't.

(I feel less charitably towards people on Twitter. Because that place is a total shithole, and Mastodon is surprisingly good, if you like microblogging platforms. Plus even Bluesky is better than staying on Twitter, and it has most of the celebrities and micro-celebrities some people might want to follow.)

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[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (22 children)

As a non tech expert, in my view, the biggest concern for the fediverse to grow, presently, is how difficult it can be to sign up.

Go to a instance listing, try and choose one, signup... all of this should be acessible but mostly invisible for the average user. The user should only be questioned what sort of content they mostly intend to browse, have a NSFW explicit option, perhaps a server location preference, and that should be it.

Beneath the hood, this process should trigger a call to the network requesting a user slot for any server that could cater to that generic profile the prospect user filled. Even bans should be handled differently, in my opinion.

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That coke-rush is just temporary and afterwards, leaves you feeling like this:

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Obligatory reference to SNL's parody take, though more for Oscar the Grouch: https://youtu.be/kqpak5lFxvs.

[–] PM_me_your_doggo@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I have a feeling that spez was an ordinary man when he started reddit. Then he became an asshat, of course.

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[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 13 points 5 days ago

The fediverse is like a cafe with an unusual menu and interesting conversations. Most social media is like a McDonald's in Altoona PA.

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