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Trump survives assassination: "God wants him to live!"

Trump dies in assassination: "Satan sent his demons to kill his foe!"

Isn't it great how their believes always tell them they are right and good and others are wrong and evil?

That has actually been tested!

Big cats notice the laserpointer but they don't really chase it. Most likely because they don't hunt insects and small rodents.

Vor allem werden die Trophäen mit Luchs nachweislich besser, nur ein klein wenig weniger und es dauert sehr lange bis der Jagddruck durch den Luchs die Kranken und Schwachen soweit ausgedünnt hat, dass es wieder mehr starke Männchen mit toller Wehr gibt.

50 Rehe im Jahr sind doch keine Zahl, bei einem dutzend Luchsen sind das gerade mal 600 Rehe, auf der Fläche von den Revieren ist das nur ein Tropfen auf den heißen Stein.

Aber zumindest mal keine Minister-Pension:

Wer mindestens vier Jahre lang Bundesminister war, erhält eine Pension von 4.990 Euro pro Monat.

Dafür dürfte er einen Pensionsanspruch als MdB haben:

Pro Jahr der Mitgliedschaft im Bundestag erwirbt ein Abgeordneter einen Pensionsanspruch (Altersentschädigung) von 2,5 Prozent der Abgeordnetenentschädigung

33 Monate von Oktober 09 bis Juli 12 und 84 Monate seit Oktober 2017, sind 9,75 Jahre, bald 10 Jahre, gäbe ihm 25% der Abgeordnetenentschädigung, also ca. 2800 Euro pro Monat.

If you count the election as the biggest possible poll, that let's you infer which way the non-voters would have gone.

And if you are a non-voter, that means you have declared the eventual outcome as your preferred outcome, since you did not vote otherwise.

Ich denke es wird zu einem Großteil darum gehen Habeck in den ganzen Talkshows zu platzieren. Der kann wirklich gut erklären wie und warum schwierige Entscheidungen getroffen wurden und je mehr ich dem Mann zuhöre, desto kompetenter finde ich ihn. Das wird (hoffentlich) das Wahlergebnis stärken und grüne Politik leichter verdaulich machen.

couldn’t be bothered to give a shit

Which means they chose this too. The only people without any culpability are the ones who voted for Harris or who for many reasons were not able to vote.

Doesn't mean that the people who did not vote are as much at fault as the ones voting for Trump, but they share part of the blame.

Americans HAVE their country, this is what they want, this is what they voted for. Stop treating Americans as if this is something pressed upon them. They chose this. Now they will live with the consequences.

I keep being surprised how people can say that. "He is no Hitler, he did not kill 6 million Jews!"

Hitler got into power in 1933, the first massacre on Jewish people happened six years later in 1939, the industrialized and systemic killing of KZ-inmates did not start until 1941.

People don't compare him to Hitler because they believe he already killed 6 million Jews, they compare him to Hitler because of the clear parallels between 1932, maybe 1933 Hitler and Trump, as well as the parallels between the fascist MAGA cult groups and the various extremist groups of the NSDAP.

People aren't (just) afraid of Trump because of what he did, but of what he might do, if he keeps following those parallels.

It's not (mainly) a condemnation of his past and present but a warning to heed BEFORE even the people saying "He's not killed 6 million people." can no longer say that.

This has layers to it.

Morally: Yes, you are absolutely right. Non-voters share part of the blame of electing Donald Trump, they share a part of the moral responsibility and should absolutely be held accountable. Everyone who says "Wasn't me", needs to be told that they are part of the problem.

Hell, telling people that non-voters are culpable was one of my first reactions.

Strategically though it's important that I did not say that they should not be alienated at all, but that I said they should not be completely alienated. Just ask yourself two simple questions:

• Can we (a broader left and left-leaning coalition) win future elections without them?
• If we completely alienate them, if we treat them as enemies, will they vote how we need them to, or will they dig in and maybe even turn into the enemies we would prefer them not to be?

The inability to change, mental laziness and intellectual poverty don't absolve his voters of blame. They are adults and should be treated as such, thus anything else but holding them accountable for their actions is nothing but moral laziness on our part. The people voting for the candidate of "the party of personal responsibility" (what a cruel joke that is) need to take responsibility for their action.

We need to be thrice as angry with the red hatters as with the non-voters.

I know it feels worse to be betrayed by people who voted Biden not that long ago, mostly because we expect them to do better, while we have absolutely no expectations of anything positive from the Trump voters. But who is the bigger problem here? The people who ride the bus no matter where it's going or the people with their foot on the gas, accelerating towards the cliff?

20 million PLUS all the Trump voters.

You must not focus solely on non-voters.

• The people voting for Trump are much more directly responsible.
• You will need those non-voters in the future, completely alienating them now will not help the cause.