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[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 56 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)

To be fair, these were better than the previous standards.

[–] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago

Nah, I preferred USB 4 gen 3.7, 3x3, so clear and concise....

/S

Agreed. I can't stand the previous symbology.

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 58 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It's disturbing that I kinda miss the pre-USB days when, if the cable matched the port physically, it also matched the port in terms of capabilities (unless someone was doing something deliberately stupid). At least that meant you knew right away whether you had the right cable or not.

[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 45 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

USB-C has been a blessing and curse. One port that does everything, except when it doesn't. Even charging is now complicated by the "guess the cable that supports the right PD type" game.

Not that the old days were much better. I don't miss faffing around with the myriad of serial and parallel port modes and settings.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

Problem with the old days was that you had to have each kind of cable for it to work. No LPT cable? No printer. Hope the cable is long enough. There was no integrated Bluetooth or wifi, or even a dongle available. Haven’t even gotten around to the internals yet with ribbon cables for floppy or IDE or whatever.

Yeah, USB-C comes with it’s own issues, but I much prefer this to the bin full of cables, plugs, wall warts, connectors and adapters that were kept on hand just in case.

[–] csm10495@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

+1.

I wish we had type c but all cables were labeled with clear functionality from the start. I don't like data/power only cables.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 days ago

These have their place, though. The obvious example is public charging cables, which at least have had PoC for exploits.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

PD cables aren't expensive enough to just buy good ones have them for all your chargers.

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

At least with barrel jacks that would have been an easy way to frie your electronics back then. With USB C you might encounter incompatibility, but at least you won't break anything (with a few exceptions like the Nintendo Switch getting bricked by connecting certain 3rd party chargers to the official dock, or using a bad 3rd party dock)

[–] Morphit 1 points 5 days ago

And then there's shit like this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Standard-Computer-Quieter2-Quieter2Q-Quieter2D-Black/dp/B099RXXDYT

if you want to use it on the third part mini pc,confirm that the output voltage of your mini pc needs 12V. If the output voltage is lower or higher than 12V and the output current exceed 2A, it will burn your mini pc or cpu.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Wasnt the parallel port also used for serial for awhile? Not quite perfect but better than now I suppose.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Although serial and parallel shared the same overall pin count and connector style, they used opposite genders and the two were incompatible.

Generally, If the port on the PC was male it was serial if the port was female it was parallel. But realistically you'd never see a 25-pin serial on a computer unless you were looking at something very ancient and strange. Even back into the '80s, The PCs used DB9 connectors for serial and adapters or the cable itself would have to convert it over the standard 25 pin connector on the modems.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

they used opposite genders

Not necessarily. For IBM PCs that was true, but my UltraSPARC had a differently-gendered serial port which was very annoying because neither standard straight nor null-modem cables worked. It was a DB-25, carrying two ports.

Those connectors were used for a lot of different things, with no autonegotiation no nothing. At least the pinout for port A was compatible with the standard DB-25 one-port pinout, just with different gender.

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

Thank god. It's about time we call things by terms that actually matter, rather than this technical jargon like USB 3.1 Gen 2. Even if someone doesn't know what a gigabit is, they can still look at this new scheme and know that higher number = more speed. This is such an upgrade

[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 4 points 5 days ago

Great, so let's now do that with memory cards. Faster than Class 10? Call it Class 11, not Class 10 U1 or U3. Faster than Class 11? Call it Class 12. There's no shortage of numbers. Let's drop all this U1 U2 bollocks.

Yes, I am still sore about those Class 10 cards I bought for my dashcam that don't fucking work because it wants U3 and they were U1.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 175 points 1 week ago (7 children)

USB C Pro Max SuperSpeed Venti Extreme

[–] Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 days ago

Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry Series and New Funky Mode

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 6 days ago

If each of those things actually mean something that tells me about the potential connection, I'm all for it.

As it stands, the symbols and colors are adopted at random.

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago

It mutilates your data

[–] finley@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Peffse@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

You forgot the ".2"

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[–] Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee 93 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Now the EU needs to make it a legal requirement that every cable sold includes an engraving of the speed and watts on both ends.

The fact this dogshit continued for so long is unforgivable. Capitalism is most efficient my ass. It's like the USB specs naming convention was outsourced to the dumbest, most illiterate engineers alive.

On second thought, the profit motive indicates the naming convention was probably done to intentionally create confusion and sell more cables.

[–] freeman@feddit.org 69 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] lengau@midwest.social 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was going to say... I've had a cable with that logo on it for over a year.

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Did the logo fix everything?

[–] lengau@midwest.social 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well i still can't get the dock that came with it to output to multiple 4k monitors (even though it's supposed to be able to), so...

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Well, for that functionality the connected PC/Laptop also needs to support it

[–] lengau@midwest.social 1 points 5 days ago
[–] darkevilmac@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 week ago

Took long enough for someone over there to figure out they made some mistakes with recent branding. Glad they've finally made some positive changes for end users though.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Fine by me, as long as the Bluetooth logo is never changed. Long live King Harald Gormsson, the unifier!

[–] JWBananas@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

Ultimately, it's great that users won't need to squint to read the fine print or cross-reference spec sheets once the labels gain popularity.

I can't even read the labels on the cables in the article photos.

EDIT: I get it, you all have 20/10 vision and no astigmatism, thanks for your input.

[–] finley@lemm.ee 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Reality has a higher resolution than this potato photo.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I can't even read the labels on the cables in the article photos.

...Because the image is crappy resolution, its like complaining you can't read without your glasses on.

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[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

I'll believe it when I see it

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (6 children)

This isn't that. It's relabeling the existing USB standards in a way that actually makes sense finally.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah, but the old labels won't just magically disappear. Tech folks might know how to handle it but for everyone else it will be just more of the same. As far as they care for labeling to begin with.

[–] JRaccoon@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I think this time the manufacturers will be pretty quick at adopting the new branding; if there's two competing devices next to each other, one marked with "USB 3.2 Gen 2x2", which no one understands, and other one with "USB 20Gbps" I think the latter will sell more.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Yeah something you don't have to further look up to figure out what it means. Just simpler.

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[–] kautau@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can’t wait for all the crapware to flood the market and slap that 80gbps logo on anything and everything

[–] Soulifix@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 6 days ago

I'm waiting for the ones that'll just go zany and put "100GBps" or "100+ GBps!".

Because you know they will do that too.

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