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On Reddit we have r/dvdcollection, r/boutiquebluray, r/4kbluray, r/steelbook, r/vhs, etc but let's start simply with a community to cover all the forms of home video collecting.

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The future of Blu-ray is looking bleak (and that's a bad thing for everyone) (www.slashgear.com)
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With over 18 years of history, Blu-ray technology was designed to take CDs and DVDs to the next level. Not only can they hold significantly more data than their predecessors, but Blu-ray discs even let you view high-quality (and 3D content) that often are closer to the experience of watching in theaters than the compressed versions you'll find elsewhere. Not to be confused with DVDs, Blu-ray discs use a different kind of laser technology, which eventually became the industry standard for film and movies by 2008. In part, this is due to the fact that its players could be backwards-compatible with DVDs, but not the other way around.

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Although some things can (and have) lasted the test of time, the natural progression of most technology is that something becomes obsolete when a newer, better, or more efficient model comes along. In terms of the Blu-ray discs, there are several things that have pushed them to obsoletion. 

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[–] MargotRobbie@lemm.ee 9 points 20 hours ago

The problem with streaming services right now is that the consumer does not know know how long a particular TV series or film is going to be available, so for any media that you would want to watch whenever you want for years to come in the highest fidelity (For example, the 2023 summer blockbuster "Barbie"), getting it on physical media is still the best option.

Asking people to get a dedicated Blu-Ray player in 2024 is a tall order, most people would fair better getting a PlayStation or XBox with disk support instead.

[–] falidorn@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I will admit that I prefer accessing my movies digitally. I will also admit that I absolutely prefer actually owning things I buy. So the compromise is to buy a disc, rip it onto a computer, and access it from there. Physical media won’t die until digital rights actually represents ownership. Unfortunately procuring those discs will likely continue to be more expensive and the discs themselves less prevalent.

[–] eyeon@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Physical media won’t die until digital rights actually represents ownership

i wish that were true but I unfortunately disagree.

The content producers are the ones who want to restrict your digital rights. And they are the ones who produce the physical media that is in demand. I could definitely see them just not producing any more, and physical media being effectively dead

[–] falidorn@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

There are plenty of boutique brands out there that have taken up the physical distribution in lieu of the content owners. As long as there’s a market for it, physical discs will still exist. There are definitely some companies that have decided not to license out distribution but they also own their own digital platforms (looking at you Netflix). Fortunately, much of what they produce is merely content and not worth owning.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I understand your point of view but nonetheless I want my media in my hous, no matter what form it takes.

I don't want my media in a computer I do not own.

[–] falidorn@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean, it is in my house. It’s on my computer. But now I can access it from anywhere too.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Physical media won’t die until digital rights actually represents ownership.

I was aiming my remark on this particular passage.

I understand your take, I respect it, but even when that is true, regarding digital rights, I will still want all my media in my house, in a machine I own, instead of having it stored in a server somewhere.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I will still want all my media in my house, in a machine I own, instead of having it stored in a server somewhere.

If what they're talking about does happen, that would just be personal preference. If you own the media, you can store it wherever you want, be it on your own machine, or on a cloud service if you desire, etc.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago

You have permission to watch it, and you will need permission to watch it.

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.org 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Blu-Ray kind of shot itself in the foot by having an insanely restrictive copy protection (AAAC) applied, which made watching movies on a PC/Laptop all but impossible, especially offline (I traveled by train a lot in 2015)*. It was obviously broken fairly quickly, so they added BD+, which was also broken within 4 months.

It should be regarded as a cautionary tale against any form of copy pretention, but they sell the keys to the hardware suppliers, so I guess making the customer have a worse experience still paid off.

*No, paying PowerDVD a yearly ransom is not a valid solution

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 21 hours ago

Blu-ray won over HDDVD via payola. Then it dried up. This decline has been foreseen for a while, but I'm disappointed Phillips hasn't been muttering about super-dense DVD or a similarly shiny-sounding format to keep a sales channel and sell new IP.

[–] CidVicious@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Honestly I'm always shocked by how much they cost. Who's paying $30+ for these? Who even owns a blu-ray player that isn't a ps5?

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 1 points 16 hours ago

I got a cheap visio from a thrift store, so I was lucky. The only problem is I have about a million ways to play DVDs, but don't use it that much because I only got it for one movie. Came with DVD and Blu-ray, but my setup is old enough that Blu-ray makes little difference quality wise for me. Still cool to have since I have a dedicated distraction free DVD player, though.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I run a watcher on all the disks I want to buy.

I get a notification when the price goes down and I nab them for 50% off usually.

[–] kungfushoe@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

If you don't mind me asking: Are you using camelcamelcamel, blueray.com,or something else?

Asking for a friend that is starting to buy/collect 4k movies 😉

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

This one: https://changedetection.io/

I self-host it and it’s been pretty reliable at auto detecting prices on random webshops

[–] kungfushoe@lemmy.world 1 points 24 minutes ago

Thank you for sharing!

[–] Iampossiblyatwork@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hi. It's me.

[–] CidVicious@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well that's probably a bit predictable given what community this is. But I really think the pricing is way out of line with what your average person is willing to pay and it only serves to make the physical media more niche.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 4 points 23 hours ago

I fully agree with this. I'm sure the prices are so high to get people to use streaming services or online rentals like Amazon does. At $30/disk though, that's enough that there isn't a single piece of media I care enough about to preserve physically. The ones I care the most about are also television shows, so that's even more expensive. I have nothing but gratitude for the people that are out here buying these disks, and saving them for the rest of us.

I mostly consider physical media to be merch when I buy it

[–] Iampossiblyatwork@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

That's fair. My wife let me have this win. It was expensive though.

I will say I love watching movies on our blu ray but my toddler also likes the moves anywhere codes that let's him watch Moana on any device.

Its the best of both worlds if you aren't comfortable with ripping.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

I do. But I'm old. No PS5. In fact I have an X box 360. That's the NEW console. My old one is a SNES. Still love my Mario! I know.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 21 hours ago

The server I just bought has one.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I’ll stick with my NAS media server, fuck all that plastic with potential to be lost/damaged and whatnot

[–] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

Yeah, but I bet the best quality copies of what you have on there were at some point ripped from Blu-rays. The death of physical media will hurt anyone who wants to "own" their library. Unless we get the GOG of Movies where high quality DRM-free copies can be bought, they are going to keep pushing everyone to their subscription streaming sites until the idea of owning media dies. Blu-ray is the last mainstream bastion of owning your movies. I agree the plastic is a problem, but let's get a good replacement before we throw out what we have.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You don't lose or wreck the good ones.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 18 hours ago

Case in point: of all my Cult CDs, only "Ceremony" was super trashed when it fell outta my discman and onto gravel on the way to school. "Sonic Temple", "Electric" and "Dreamtime"? Played a million times and still pristine.

[–] xyzzy@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This article is just a retread of the same things talked about for years. But boutique Blu-ray is still in a good place; there are more releases i'm Interested in than I keep up with, and particularly more 4K releases than ever.

One signal here is that some popular streaming series are still getting physical releases. Like, I didn't think I'd see Severance or any of the Disney+ shows on Blu-ray, but here we are.

That said, now is the time to buy a dedicated player if you don't already have one. Sony and Panasonic make the best ones, so it's no accident they're the last two manufacturers standing.

Nit picky: the word is "obsolescence," not "obsoletion."

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Obsoletion is a word as well, and it was used correctly.

[–] xyzzy@lemm.ee 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Yes, technically it is a rare synonym in British English, but it is what I would consider a word hanging from the cliff edge by its fingertips

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=obsoletion%2Cobsolescence&year_start=1800&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3

[–] stardustpathsofglory@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I still enjoy watching blurays more than anything. The only downside what I see is that it gets more expensive. But otherwise you own something physical that you can also resell.

[–] yakko 6 points 1 day ago

Ownership is in bad shape, and it's gonna get worse if we let them do away with things like cash and physical media.

[–] Schmuppes@lemmy.today 12 points 1 day ago

I don't own a whole lot, but I enjoy content on BD. I have a subscription similar to what Netflix started out as and get two discs per month. My partner always enjoys the bonus content that you just don't get with the streaming services.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not a surprise. I can’t say I remember the last time I watched a movie using optical storage of any kind.

Dvds and blu-ray might as well be called VHS.

[–] chuymatt@startrek.website 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Sound and visuals are all better than streaming, by far.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Probably but I can’t say I care all that much.

I know there are plenty of people looking for that home movie theater experience but I would say the majority of people just don’t care. At least not enough to hunt down blu-rays.

If my choice is between collecting movies I’ll rarely watch vs just flipping on a stream I am just going to stream. It’s easier. Less fucking around. Doesn’t require physically storing media some where taking up space.

[–] chuymatt@startrek.website 1 points 13 hours ago

That is fine, but we are different people. We value different things: I deeply enjoy the better quality experience for some thing and also hate when something I enjoy gets pulled from streaming. One size fits all rarely actually works.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Found the center of the universe.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

Did you look in the mirror or something?

[–] keyez@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I searched a few of the players it said are available for lower prices second hand and looks like Panasonic still has 4 models of 4K blu ray players available on their site right now. May have to snag one of those as I have a Samsung one from 9 years ago that could probably use an upgrade soon