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Not enough people buying Premium, eh? (sopuli.xyz)

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[–] moon@lemmy.cafe 16 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

They're especially greedy when you consider they are not only the most profitable of all their competitors (Netflix/Disney Plus/Hulu/etc), but that they're unique in that they're the only one who doesn't fund creating any content at all.

At least the other companies put tons of money producing content alongside their other stuff. YouTube just lets others do that for them and then takes all the profit.

So how does YouTube really justify their costs for premium with zero production costs and the largest profit margin?

[–] tweeks@feddit.nl 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Most other companies can be selective in what they host / stream. YouTube will host/stream anything users upload and that's actually quite insane. Current statistics say that YouTubers upload 30.000 hours of video.. per hour.

Aside from the streaming/processing, only the disk space that would need is already frightening. Most of those videos will never be seen, and no ads will be played on them. The setup needed for this is massively more impressive to me than services like Netflix.

Do you perhaps have a source for those profit margins? I really wonder if they're already running break even.

[–] muelltonne@feddit.org 1 points 6 hours ago

Don't worry about YouTube - according to alphabets filings they account for ~10% of Googles ad revenue. Google is posting record profits every quarter, so they should manage.

[–] NotAnArdvark@lemmy.ca -3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

YouTube premium is one of the subscriptions I most often feel thankful for having. I watch enough YouTube videos that avoiding all those ads is really worthwhile, I hope that my view is worth more to the channels I watch, and YouTube music let me cancel Spotify.

I understand being pissed at YouTube and Google, but at the end of the day, of all the things I have to rage at, YouTube isn't worth it. I like it, there are creators that use it that I like, and I understand that it costs real money to run the platform.

[–] AhismaMiasma@lemm.ee 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You used to be able to play videos in the background but they removed that feature specifically to lock it behind a paywall. YouTube will never see a dime from me because of this.

Charging for new features? Sure I guess. Removing features to charge for them later? Get fucked.

[–] peppers_ghost@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You can get around this by running YouTube in the web browser on Android at least

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Or use NewPipe

[–] subiacOSB@lemmy.ml 15 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I was paying for it until it got to like $16.99 on iOS. As much of an annoyance to use a work around like AD Guard. I can now afford it but refuse to give those greedy mofos a dime.

[–] zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

That is because you are paying for the premium of signing up through ios; apple takes a cut so to make money they raise the rates. It's extremely common signing up to any service through ios, that you will be charged higher than if you went to the website on your browser and sign up for it there. First link has link to Hank Green who does a great break down and investigation but provided many more examples.

https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/28/24166546/subscribing-to-stuff-from-your-iphone-is-a-waste-of-money

https://www.devicemag.com/youtube-premium-cost-iphone/

https://lifehacker.com/dont-sign-up-for-subscriptions-in-the-app-1850298355

https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaharziv/2020/07/08/heres-why-your-apple-app-store-purchases-may-be-a-ripoff/

https://umatechnology.org/psa-subscriptions-cost-more-when-bought-on-an-iphone/

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[–] jg1i@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

More than you think, actually. My wife recently signed up. I'm like, Babe! I already have uBlock Origin to block ads on desktop! On mobile, Firefox also blocks ads and allows listening to videos with the screen off. 😫

But, we still get ads on our smart LG TV. So. That's apparently enough to throw the money away.

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

we still get ads on our smart LG TV

That's when I hit the mute button, hold the remote with my finger on the OK button ready to skip, and use the remote to block my view of anything but the bottom right corner of the screen. Then when I see the skip button appear, I can click it.

Recently I have discovered that I can just use the "why this ad?" menu and select "return to video". That way you can skip any ad before the timer runs out.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It's okay to pay for a service that you use daily.

I don't, but I disagree it's "to throw money away".

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Especially if you can finagle a subscription out of one of the cheaper countries, too!

[–] Species8472@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Does that still work? Thought to have read here and there that Google is cracking down on that loophole? Maybe not (yet) if you are an existing 'foreign' sub.

Finally gave in to a 2 month free trial of YouTube premium this week. Not planning on buying into it however when the trial expires. But with the holidays thought it was a good time to accept the trial for two full months.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago

They are getting stricter, but there are still ways around it - and it only gets easier if you have friends/family (or are willing to make friends) in said countries; the internet is a global community, after all.

[–] JakenVeina@lemm.ee 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Look into getting SmartTube for the TV. Works pretty great for me

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 12 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Is that why I am getting about one ad for every 90 seconds of video ?

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 3 points 8 hours ago

Creators have a say in how many ads they want to roll. Maybe try another channel.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Is that how bad it is? Fuck...

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 7 points 20 hours ago

Just recently it has gotten worse. The good thing is that I don't watch TV at all any longer because I used youtube. Now I'm watching less youtube AND no TV so win win for my free time.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That actually makes more sense to me compared to most premium features. Higher quality directly costs more money to stream.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 1 points 33 minutes ago* (last edited 32 minutes ago) (1 children)

Even with premium they will send lower quality if they think they can get away with it, I have to change the quality on every video that plays on my tablet now: it completely ignores the preferred quality in the settings.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 minutes ago

I haven't noticed any issues on Firefox, can also use an add-on to force specific quality.

[–] umbraroze@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (19 children)

YouTube already randomly drops me to 360p on my big-ass broadband sometimes because it just feels like it. What are the guarantees YouTube Premium won't do that? ANSWER ME YOUTUBE, THIS IS CRUCIAL PRE-PURCHASE INFORMATION.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago

Premium user since Red launched.

Mobile defaults to 320p no matter what I do. I have to manually select 1080p each and every video

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[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 51 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I don't care that enhanced Bitrate is premium only. I do care that you still need to click "advanced resolution settings" to access this even for premium users on mobile.

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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

As with most things in the modern world that have gone to shit. It is not the monetization scheme in of itself that is the issue. It is the never ending desire for more profit this quarter than last forever.

If it was acceptable to stop trying to make even more once the cost to operate is covered and some healthy profit is made predictably then a lot less people would have issues. And enshitification would slow down.

[–] rocky1138@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

I pay for premium but would love to use peertube instead since it's decentralized. It would be great to have all the people I sub to upload there as well then I'd bail.

[–] dreikelvin@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I'd try it if they finally offered us a one year subscription period here in europe. they don't. their loss 🤷‍♂️

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