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The highest support, 76%, is for requiring transgender athletes to play on teams that match the sex they were assigned at birth.
Sixty-one percent favor banning “gender-affirming” care such as hormone therapy or surgery for transgender minors under 18.

Both are more popular then fucking cutting taxes. Anti trans policy is popular.

More than two-thirds, 68%, favor allowing parents to make medical decisions about their minor children, including whether or not to vaccinate them against measles, polio, and other disease.

People value being able to not vax their children more then they value parents being able to provide care for trans kids. Hormones should be banned but vaccines should be left up to parents. Naked hypocrisy.

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[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 56 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They don't actually believe this because of how they treat intersex kids

Then they're all for HRT and puberty blockers and surgeries whether the child can consent or not or whether the child even wants it if theyre older. But a kid who might actually want them because of gender dysphoria? Well now hold on.

[–] TheDrink@hexbear.net 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I gotta think that if one of our two major parties was actually defending the trans community via messaging and policy this would be different. The right runs their anti-trans messaging basically unopposed except by individuals on social media and chronically underfunded advocacy groups.

[–] godlessworm@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago

the right wing has created a situation in america where your average person and certainly the bourgeois piggies in the government are absolutely terrified of triggering them and facing a backlash.anytime anybody criticizes anything right wingers or white rich dudes do there are droves and droves of boot licking peons harassing you online over it. you're not allowed to call trump supporters nazis, because somehow that's worse than being a fucking nazi. you're not allowed to criticize corporations for enslaving people, because somehow that's worse than enslaving people. people walk on eggshells not to upset these people because through years of gaslighting and crybullying they've scared people of speaking out. and the democrats, not that they give a shit about trans people, but they can't debate the right on transgender issues because they know exactly what will happen to them if they do and they're too cowardly to deal with it

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 55 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Reinforcing my belief that the majority of Americans should be put in reeducation camps.

[–] Hexamerous@hexbear.net 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They need to go through basic-education-camps first.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Seriously, you can't re-educate someone that's too stupid to understand basic principles of critical thinking

That quote from that person talking about how their grandfather was immune to communist agitprop because they couldn't read seems pertinent

[–] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 52 points 2 days ago

trans-gun deny-defend-depose When 61% are in favor of torturing trans children, there can only be one way for queer liberation, and it sure as fuck isn’t vote

[–] girl_liker@hexbear.net 48 points 2 days ago (1 children)

there's no fucking hope for cis people dawg

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
[–] Yukiko@hexbear.net 40 points 2 days ago

Fuck these people. I fucking despise every single one of them. They all require reeducation.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago

I take the moderate centrist position that it should only be banned for cisgender minors. doggirl-smart

[–] YEP@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not to carry water for amerikkkans but If the poll phrased in like should doctors follow standard practices with trans youth it would prob also poll highly. Idk I'm always a little unsure about issue polling.

This^ We need to understand that the phrasing of these polls, as well as the bully pulpit narrative is weighing this HEAVILY right now. The parents rights stuff is framed in terms of 'liberty' & 'freedom'. But if presented with the reality of abuses that happen when these policies are enacted - you'd easily see 90+% approval for more progressive policies. It's all in how it's wrapped up, and the average burgerlander doesn't have the time to be bothered to understand policy and repercussions.

Make no mistake, we have a high degree of general approval and support, and we need to be visible and interacting with people for them to see that we're not a stump speech talking point.

[–] Deinonychus@hexbear.net 30 points 2 days ago

unlimited genocide on the cis, their lives are worth less than nothing

[–] Shaleesh@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago

That entire poll is really fucking bleak

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 27 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Sorry I'm an ignorant cissy. The phrasing seems dishonest.

“gender-affirming” care such as hormone therapy or surgery for transgender minors under 18.

I thought that nearly all minors are gonna get puberty blockers. Surgery for minors seems incredibly rare, no??

[–] FemboyStalin@hexbear.net 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hormone blockers/puberty blockers for trans teens is the compromise. They should be getting hrt and going through puberty around the same time as their peers. Forcing people to wait until they're 18 to do puberty is so cruel for no reason

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fair enough. Sorry I have so little knowledge about all this.

[–] FemboyStalin@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

No worries!

[–] EpicKebabEater@hexbear.net 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Being on puberty blockers for too long can be detrimental to mental health so hormone treatment is often started early, after a few years of blockers. Blockers buy time if the child is unsure.

Surgery is incredibly rare except for top surgery which generally starts at age 16.

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Top surgery is still rare imo shrug-outta-hecks this study found 82 top surgeries were done on trans minors in 2019. That seems rare to me.

But very common for cis girls with rich parents. agony-deep

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 32 points 2 days ago

It is rare for surgeries to be performed that young. My guess is alot of Americans would be relatively comfortable with HRT, but when you frame the question with surgery it's alot less popular.

Of course the repugnantcans will do a blanket ban with no regard for if it's surgery or just hormones. And dems will do jack shit about it because they secretly hate us.

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago

A lot of minors are not getting any gender affirming care at all, it is already illegal in roughly half of the states in the US. The results of that are dire. Puberty is rough to begin with, but going through the wrong puberty while being fully aware of it must be hell on earth. These measures kill children, we have clear evidence for that, and that will most likely soon be expanded to the entire country.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago
[–] kristina@hexbear.net 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

needs a nsfw tag i think for transphobia

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] kristina@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago
[–] btbt@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

Yeah but gommunism doesn't work because Castro had homophobic views 60 years ago