If you do a lot of writing by hand, cursive is a lifesaver.
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Legibility > speed.
Only if you suck at cursive. Depending on how much effort I put in, both my cursive and print writing can look nice, but writing cursive causes mess stress over time. If I'm just jotting a quick note it doesn't matter and both look like ass, but if I'm taking notes for lecture or in a D&D campaign or something like that, where I'm writing a bunch over an hour or more, I see a huge drop off in quality after a bit of time when writing print.
My mother sucks at cursive then. I have to constantly call her when I do her shopping. If it was for personal notes, it wouldn't matter, but if you're communicating with other people, it's terrible.
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Only if you suck at cursive.
I do, because despite all the work I put into it the letters all blur together. I forget a hump or two whem writing something like communication in cursive, and no amount of practice made a difference.
I can generally read poorly written cursive more easily than well done cusrive because I recognize which letters tend to be skewed. My father in laws lwriting was easier for me to read as his arthritis got worse!
But printed letters are always easier to read, which is why nobody uses cursive fonts when they type something up.
I can read my own cursive just fine, and it's way easier to write than printing each letter individually.
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It's the only thing that keeps my chronic tendinitis from making me unable to write altogether
I switched schools for high school after being in a British private school since the first grade. I was shocked at seeing anyone write in block print for the first time. Up until then I genuinely thought that cursive was the only way to hand-write and that block was reserved for little kids just learning to write.
EDIT: That school even had a calligraphy class that taught us how to write with a fountain pen. I have no idea what world they were preparing us for.
I learned cursive in Canada after living in the UK for a while. When I went back to the UK and went to Sheffield everyone was like, "he knows how to do the joint up writing!" I can't remember the exact year but we were going to start preparing for our GCSEs. Then I left again and went back to Canada.
I am American but I spent my childhood in the Caribbean. My mom wanted to make sure I had a good education so she enrolled me in a private school started and run by a posh British couple to educate the children of the expats stationed there back when agricultural exports were big business (1950's??). I think they taught us they way they were taught as children in their preppy schools at the turn of the century.
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Imagine not using the faster, cooler way of writing
Older Millennial here.
I had to learn cursive, memorize the times table, and know the capital of every god damn state. I had to remember the order of planets. I had to memorize polygon names up to 20 and roman numeral math.
There's so many things I learned that I don't use on a day to day. Things I can pull out of my brain but if you made me apply it, I'll struggle for a bit, and scribble the answer on a piece of paper.
The one time the skills came in handy was when I was crushing a escape room.
I mean, broadly speaking there's no utility to knowing the planets or their order. There's no reason to know all the organs in the human body or the capital cities of all the states or the names of a hundred different dinosaurs or the events surrounding WW2.
But some of this stuff is just... fun to know. It gives you a knowledge base that lets you have an intelligent conversation with your peers and answers some broad existential questions about the world around you. And some of it is so foundational to your understanding of reality that - if you leave the teaching to the wrong people - you get some very ugly knock-on effects.
The guy who doesn't know what roman numerals are is much easier to sucker into a Facebook conspiracy theory when he starts seeing them show up in a conversation between Sovereign Citizens. Knowing times-tables is helpful for that base-line mental math that keeps you from getting scammed by a shady contractor or embarrassed when you try and calculate a tip at a restaurant. Knowing your planets at least blunts some of the absurd "Iranian Drone Mothership Harasses Innocent East Coast Dipshits" headlines CNN has been spewing.
And ffs, people still write things down. Cursive is a faster way to write than print. The whole reason people keep coming back to eInk and other free-hand computer tools stems from the fact that a pen remains mightier than a keyboard in a host of cases.
These are all still important educational touchstones, even if you're not going back to them every minute of every day.
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I guess it's a good thing he wrote it in print. Nobody would've been able to read it otherwise.
Kinda makes me wonder why he didn't write that sign in cursive. Kind of a missed oppertunity to accually use it
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The hell are you talking about? It's the perfect secret code to keep anything hidden from younger generations. It's like how manual transmission is the best car security system there is.
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Gen x? No, millennials ~~were the last Gen to learn cursive~~ learned cursive too
I don't think one has to be the last to learn a thing in order to be able to realize how pointless learning it was.
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My kid is learning it now (UK primary school). His writing is awful because he's supposed to do it the way he's taught instead of finding his own way to make it legible. He has a talent for drawing neat little cartoons, so he can clearly manage a pencil, but his writing is near unreadable.
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I don't care if anyone learns cursive or not, but I have to say it's a bit painful to watch people taking twice as long to laboriously print stuff out and TBH I've had just as much trouble deciphering some people's printing as I have someone's cursive.
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I'm appalled by the absolute state of these comments. I expected more from what felt like largely a leftist space. more than yearning for ignorance. there's no space where knowledge is sacred anymore I guess.
good capitalist boy. bark. sit. work your ass off. never learn anything that doesn't give you immediate practical results, you understand? you're only to learn things that produce and/or consume. you're not to enjoy knowledge for the sake of it or anything that might spark creativity. we have AI for creative endeavors. you do the work. don't wonder. don't be curious. don't even think about thinking. does it make money? does it spend money? no? then stop and get fucking back to work.
That's what art class is for, which includes calligraphy.
School as we know it was designed to produce workers, and cursive was a part of that. They taught us cursive because they thought we would need it for work.
cursive != calligraphy
And here i was thinking it was a way to write quickly and neatly
I was born in the 90s and we didnt have computers in school for us to use til I was around 12 or 13? And that was dedicated computer science class, and I went to a school known for math and science.
You needed to write your notes. By thr time I hit 14/15 we had to type our assignments but we were still using notebooks in class.
It was only by the time I hit college that people were using laptops in class.
So up until then, most people were still writing. I still write letters to people I care about - my girlfriend, friends who live far away, etc.
Also consider the vast amount of studies that show that handwriting helps people memorize or learn at a far higher rate than typing does.
Funny enough my younger brother is a good amount younger than me. He grew up with typing, his school gave him a Chromebook to start, laptops in every class, etc. It's just a difference in what you were taught and why, based on when you grew up. I don't think anyone expected us to go from n64 to ps4 in less than 20 years. The boom of technology has killed handwriting. But considering that for the longest time tech didn't advance at the rate that it has been doing since like 2008 or so, it makes sense that people were taught to write. Writing has been around for thousands of years. It's probably still a skill you want to be able to do, and do legibly
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Or maybe cursive just sucks and needs to go away, while all the rest of us choose to value knowledge by learning things that are worth learning.
no it doesn't and you sound like you're just annoyed by having to learn it when you didn't want to. this is the kind of thinking that put comic sans on everything from restaurant menus to legal documents.
Cursive is so bad I would choose Comic Sans over cursive any day. 🤣
well at least you confirmed my point
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This take is honestly bewildering to me. What do you mean "for no reason"? You learn it to write quickly and legibly. What other option is there? Writing in block letters like a kindergartener?? inb4 "bUt eVeRyThInG iS dIgItAl nOw". I'm a programmer, about as digital as you can get, and even I whip out the pen and paper for mindmapping and notetaking.
I work in construction. To communicate on site we need to do a lot of quick ugly drawings and writing notes on site in places way too dirty to use a computer. We do it by hand, and of course we write in cursive. I am also extremely bewildered by this post and it comments.
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I'm a millennial. I was also taught cursive for absolutely no reason.
First of all, why? It's supposed to be easier/quicker to write things down using cursive but honestly, I can't understand people's chicken scratch cursive anyways, so it's basically meaningless. You might as well give someone a list of scribbles and just have them call you later for what it should say.
That's basically it. Signatures, sure, maybe, but bluntly, who gives a damn?
Fuck cursive.
Just practice drawing this single letter while I get over my wine hangover for the next 40 minutes. Heaven forbid someone gets bored and acts out.
I can barely read my own cursive if I try to write fast
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I learned cursive to pro actively fuck with the people that didn't
Signing mortgages....so ueah, absolutely nothing.
Do you actually think it matters what is written? All they want is proof that you signed, draw a penis for all they care.
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Yeah but what life event causes some people to forever write in all capital letters?
I believe the youngest an Xer can be is lower forties. He sorta looks younger than that.
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As soon as my school said cursive was no longer mandatory, I immediately stopped using it. Garbage, pure garbage. I've had a job that involved coming into contact with a lot of papers where people are still choosing to write in cursive, and it is consistently the most unreadable spaghetti I have had the misfortune to look at.
By all means find ways to transcribe old works written in cursive - into print, but stop trying to revive this shitty writing style, it deserves to die.
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