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    [–] polyduekes@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

    why or how is fedora security?

    [–] superkret@feddit.org 204 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

    When you run OpenSUSE, you can feel it was made by Germans.
    The installer is a beautiful example of German engineering.
    The package manager is a perfect example of German over-engineering.
    If you run it with KDE, you have 2 redundant GUI admin tools for every config in the system, and 4 for setting up printers.

    [–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 85 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Yeah that sounds like a typical BMW engine layout.

    [–] LookBehindYouNowAndThen@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    It's amazing how OpenSUSE got my laptop's valve covers to leak oil.

    [–] kalpol@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    As the owner of many old German cars this is funny but only because it means no one read the technical manual that came with the car

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    [–] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)
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    [–] Guenther_Amanita@slrpnk.net 168 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Sees "Germany"

    Die Kommentarspalte dieser Pfostierung befindet sich ab sofort im Besitz der Bundesrepublik Deutschland meine Kameraden!

    [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Ahoi, Genosse! Wie läuft die Germanisierung? Verbreiten Sie erfolgreich das Wort von Linux in Ihrem Heimatland?

    (Übersetzung von DeepL)

    Anti Commercial-AI license

    [–] loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Ohhh ich spreche auch Wurst. Wie geht es ihnen mein Herr, toetet den fuehrer und benutzt Linux statt Fenster.

    [–] Randelung@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

    Wir sprechen Kraut, bitte sehr.

    [–] far_university190@feddit.org 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Ich bevorzuge:

    𝕯𝖎𝖊𝖘𝖊 𝕶𝖔𝖒𝖒𝖊𝖓𝖙𝖆𝖗𝖘𝖊𝖐𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓 𝖎𝖘𝖙 𝖓𝖚𝖓 𝕰𝖎𝖌𝖊𝖓𝖙𝖚𝖒 𝖉𝖊𝖗 𝕭𝖚𝖓𝖉𝖊𝖘𝖗𝖊𝖕𝖚𝖇𝖑𝖎𝖐 𝕯𝖊𝖚𝖙𝖘𝖈𝖍𝖑𝖆𝖓𝖉

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    [–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 69 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Terminal, Terminal, Terminal, German Terminal

    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 143 points 1 week ago (17 children)

    Console, Console, Console, Konsole

    [–] elvith@feddit.org 48 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Konsole must be a KDE app, but since KDE is a German project...

    [–] squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)
    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 13 points 1 week ago

    Helau! Ach warte...

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    [–] noodles@sh.itjust.works 66 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    Nixos: everything everywhere all at once

    [–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 week ago

    Good for you there wasn't an "ease of use" or "intuitive" field.

    [–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    nixOS is for people who love config files

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    [–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 53 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    ITT - "I DISAGREE WITH THE FACTUAL ACCURACY OF THE SETUP AND/OR PUNCHLINE OF YOUR JOKE."

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    [–] specterspectre@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

    I think I've put fedora on at least 4 personal systems and it has never caused an issue. It's so smooth it's boring in the best way. Switched to it for daily computing about 4 years ago. I use a minipc as a media server with Arch and turning it on it's exciting. Just this fucking morning the default configuration decided that my main audio device was a microphone. Lovely. So flexible.

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    [–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 35 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    I mean, I'm on Debian and I'm on the same install instance I've had for almost four years now. I'm constantly reading about how some of you people keep hosing your other distros with a normal update...

    [–] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Four years? Some rookie numbers you got there.

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    [–] Draghetta@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Real. Though sometimes running a recent version of something is a real challenge, unless it ships in appimage. If it’s a small program you can usually backport the package from unstable or just build it yourself, but if it depends on some rust or js libraries or whathaveyou you have to do so much crap you might as well just be running trixie

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    [–] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (10 children)

    I'll never stop hating that debian is labeled stable. I'm fully aware that they are using the definition of stable that simply means not updating constantly but the problem is that people conflate that with stability as in unbreaking. Except it's the exact opposite in my experience, I've had apt absolutely obliterate debian systems way too often. Vs pacman on arxh seems to be exceptionally good at avoiding that. Sure the updated package itself could potentially have a bug or cause a problem but I can't think of any instance where the actual process of updating itself is what eviscerated the system like with apt and dpkg.

    And even in the event of an update going catastrophically wrong to the point that the system is inoperable I can simply chroot in use a statically built binary pacman and in a oneliner command reinstall ALL native packages in one go which I've never had not fix a borked system from interrupted update or needing a rollback

    [–] dezmd@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (10 children)

    You are maybe conflating stability with convenience.

    "Why is this stable version of my OS unstable when I update and or install new packages...."

    The entire OS falling down randomly on every distribution during normal OS background operations was always an issue or worry, and old Debbie Stables was meant to help make linux feel reliable for production server use, and it has done a decent job at it.

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    [–] dan@upvote.au 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    FWIW I've got a Debian server that hosts most of my sites and primary DNS server, that's been running since Etch (4.0, 2007ish). I've upgraded it over the years, switched from a dedicated server to OpenVZ to KVM, and it's still running today on Bookworm. No major issues with upgrades.

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    [–] exu@feditown.com 26 points 1 week ago

    The four fundamental Ys

    [–] I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Fedora 41 is now the 'wait 45 seconds every boot because you don't have a tpm chip' version.

    [–] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    Can i get some context please? My fedora install wasn't using TPM, i had to manually configure it; i haven't noticed any difference in boot speed with or without TPM encryption

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    [–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (14 children)

    Flexibility translates to unpredictable.

    [–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    I’ve never had any issues with my Arch install being unpredictable. It has always worked exactly as I expected it to, even though I update it every couple of days.

    [–] lukstru@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    It has always worked exactly as I expected it to

    Just expect it to break, then it will behave as expected taps head

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    [–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 20 points 1 week ago (10 children)

    I've been using Arch since 2014. If I could be arsed, I could write you a looooooooong list of regressions I've had to deal with over the years. For an experienced Linux user, they're usually fairly easy to deal with, but saying you never have to deal with anything is just a lie.

    My experience with Arch is basically: it's all very predictable until it isn't and you suddenly find yourself troubleshooting something random like unexplainable bluetooth disconnects caused by a firmware or kernel update.

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    [–] spacedout@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago

    What? I love Arch, it's so god damn stable and fast.

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    Somehow, I feel called out.

    [–] gregor@gregtech.eu 18 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    OpenSUSE is the "all of the above" of Linux distros

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    [–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago (10 children)

    Qubes is the actuall security distro tho.

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    [–] gsfraley@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (15 children)

    Fedora is security? I mean, don't get me wrong, I love it, it's my daily driver after trying just about every distro under the sun, but I would've figured something like Qubes would stand head and shoulders above it.

    [–] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

    i would say fedora is the "security distro for every day people" kind of distro

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    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    I would hope the Fedora isn't the only one that cares about security

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    [–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    From my experience of Fedora: would you like to update today? Debian: You're good bro, no updates today.

    [–] sunstoned@lemmus.org 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    5, years, later..

    Debian: You're good bro, no updates today.

    [–] psmgx@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Don't forget SUSE's focus on SAP... Which is also Germany I guess

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    [–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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    [–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    I don't get the Germany part, and I'm German

    [–] gregor@gregtech.eu 22 points 1 week ago (3 children)
    [–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I know, but I don't get the joke. We don't do these around here

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    [–] ogeist@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Check the comment from superkret, basically overengineered, redundant and not very intuitive.

    I work in german SW development, so I understand. I would put it like this, german backends are among the best you can find but german frontends are usually complicated and not intuitive...

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