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[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] NumaNuma@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

The communism my mother warned me about!

[–] NothingButBits@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 1 year ago

I'm glad China tackling the American spyware problem. A democratic government can't allow its citizen to be victims of espionage by a racist imperialist state. We can't allow Sleepy Joe to have access to Chinese citizens' personal data.

[–] Life2Space@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Apple isn't innovative, anyways. They implement already-existing features onto their models for a slight upgrade, and sell it at monopoly prices.

Also, planned obsolescence...

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Genuine tears of laughter.

We've not even really seen the start of the consequences of BRICS expansion yet. Do you think China is just doing some teasers so it's not so much of a shock to the west when the rug is swiped from beneath imperialism?

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah, I think this is just a preview of things to come.

BRICS expansion is when no iphone

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They have done it

Gobbyism no eyefon

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

lol the funny part is that now we can say capitalism no Huawei phone since US banned them. Gonna be funny once Huawei phones become more desirable than Apple around the world. πŸ˜‚

[–] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

nce Huawei phones become more desirable than Apple around the world.

That's not gonna happen unless Huawei is able to become a cultural force or a luxury status symbol, and with it being banned in the cultural capital of the west it seems unlikely.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

That's true in the west, but Huawei is becoming the symbol of technological independence outside the west. It shows that a non western company is able to make a device that's competitive with the best western ones have to offer.

[–] davi@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

phones are status symbols now; iphones will remain dominant forever, at least in this country.

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 1 year ago

Now I just hope Huawei gets to do business in the rest of the world. I don't want my huawei phone back on GMS, I want the world to also support HMS (huawei mobile services) on top of GMS if they want to.

[–] Phenyq@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

By the way, warious Russian government agencies and companies also were banning iPhones, but nobody was talking about it

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can see this trend spreading quickly outside the west now that alternatives are available.

[–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Domestic smartphone capability isn't even hard nowadays.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is if you want to have the whole supply chain end to end. China might be the only country that can produce all the components domestically right now.

[–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's the limiting factor? Displays? Semiconductors? Everything else is pretty easy.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

From what I've read, the difficulty is largely in coordinating production of various different components. Apple not being able to build macs in US because they couldn't source enough of a particular type of screw is a perfect example of this. Every device like a phone has thousands or millions of different components needed to assemble it. Auditing the whole supply chain to ensure that you can produce all of these components domestically and in sufficient numbers is pretty difficult. China has a huge advantage here because it's where most advanced manufacturing is happening.

[–] Giyuu@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I asked jar jar binks what he thinks and he said apple dassa lotta money yousa poopin

[–] HodgePodge@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

:jarjar-sicko:

[–] Drstrange2love@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 year ago

Communism no ifon

[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Were they really that prevalent in Chinese government anyway? I would assume they would be using China made phones already for the most part. If you look at the stock over the past 6 months look like it took a massive hit a little while back and my guess is things where already looks bad so they pumped it recently then the insiders dumped at the top and are blaming everything they can on the market failure. Sure, I mean, the ban from China isn't helping, but that recent pump up with this timing for the dump seems to coincidental to me.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Frankly, the only surprising thing to me is that China allowed government officials to use phones that aren't domestically produced.

[–] Ronin_5@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago

What probably tipped them off was the US claiming that huawei equipment was spying on them. Given that all their claims are projection…

[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I imagine it was just something no one really thought about making an issue of till recently. Most of the time stuff isn't banned preemptively but reactively.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Exactly, also can't think of many cases off top of my head where US stuff got banned by other countries. It's practically always US doing the bans. The idea that China could ban a popular US product was likely inconceivable until now.

[–] TheCaconym@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Were they really that prevalent in Chinese government anyway

Same question here, I'm flabbergasted they were not already forbidden for use for government officials

[–] Ronin_5@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s not just the gov, but this trend will flow down to the rest of the citizens as well.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I expect that's the actual reason for the stock drop. I recall reading an article a while back how Apple had trouble competing with Android in China because everybody uses WeChat for everything, and it's basically the main app people care about. Since you do practically everything through WeChat, it doesn't really matter what OS you use. It makes all the Apple apps and integrations irrelevant. People still got iPhones cause they've been a status symbol, but I think now we'll see more people getting Huawei because it feels good that your own country can produce a phone that's as good as what Americans make.

[–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, the Mate 60 is crazy good.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I'd love to get my hands on one

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago

Oh boy they gonna unload their vault next stock buybacks.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, perfectly functioning economy we've got over here. slaps hood

This baby will never break down. finger guns

[–] HodgePodge@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

oh damn maybe we shouldn’t have done sanctions against our largest trade partner lol