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[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 51 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

it's the branding.

mastodon has a crummy name

but also there's too much friction to get on it

feels an awful lot like bluesky saw where mastodon fell short and decided to be all the things mastodon failed to live up to, but to also be its own set of things that are worse than mastodon on a moral/ethical/technical backend level--but instead they focused on the user experience.

It sucks, but people just enjoy bluesky's user experience more.

If mastodon doesn't like it, mastodon can change. So, go ahead, mastodon. Fix yourself. Be better. We're all waiting.

[–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So, go ahead, mastodon. Fix yourself. Be better. We're all waiting.

"wontfix"

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

And that's why bluesky has won (at least for now).

[–] TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 weeks ago

X and Bluesky are tools, nothing else.
Maybe I'm stating the obvious here, but Mastodon simply doesn't have a lot of marketing muscle behind it.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There was too much friction publishing to Nature. I don't want Nature, but a similar experience, so I'm switching to Elsevier

Same energy

[–] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You are very bad at reading energy.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io -1 points 2 weeks ago

That's because I felt it.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

People go wherever the people already are on social media.

It’s why it’s so difficult to get your people to switch from FB Messenger to WIRE or Signal even though they’re not recording every keystroke like FB Messenger is.

[–] 2pt_perversion@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Network effect is real but not insurmountable, that's why the migration from twitter is happening in the first place. The question is why did the first movers decide on Bluesky instead of Mastodon? And the answer is probably just because there is a more 1-to-1 mapping to twitter with less focus on confusing federation and following procedures. Now that it's had such an influx, yeah, the network effect is going to strengthen its lead.

[–] zoostation@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

People aren't ideologues. They're not leaving Twitter because it's for-profit, they're leaving because it sucks.

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The main reason noone checks out mastodon is the same reason for Lemmy, being decentralised. Hundreds of choices instead of just one.
The average Joe only wants one button, one choice.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

This is the reason for Apple's success.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

and yet plenty of people are using various email services, how is that explained?

like my mom uses fucking yahoo

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 9 points 2 weeks ago

There was a brief moment where the big Twitter accounts were checking out Mastodon, but too many got caught up on the signup process. Bluesky has a much simpler signup process.

[–] Mikina@programming.dev 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I still think it's a good thing. Fediverse still hasn't solved the moderation issues, and from what I've heard moderating a social network with tens of millions of users is a nightmare, even without considering the possible legal problems that would arise for instance owners.

Also, based on the little I know about ActivityPub, it would be pretty easy to monetize and exploit. Since everything gets sent everywhere, having an instance that simply gathers data to sell wouldn't be much of an problem - or rather, due to the nature of how instances work, you have to agree with your data being sent to other servers, and if those in turn gather and sell the data, wouldn't the blame fall upon the instance owners, that they did not disclose it? Tbh I have no idea how would the GDPR/etc laws work in this case, but I bet they are not ready for this federated case.

Fediverse has also been a really good filter for content, thanks to it's relative niche. As of now, someone who choses fediverse instead of other platforms seems to match my values and outlook on digital life, and I'm more interested in content they produce, be it on Mastodon or here. It's also why I don't mind there not being any kind of algorithms for content feeds.

If people started flooding the fediverse, it would bring with it so many problems that would basically ruin it, due to legislative issues, content moderation, and more.

So, as far as I'm considered, it's good.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

I really would like the emphasis to be on individual power. blocking, subscribing, maybe in between states like trust cafe does along with being able to subscribe to blocklists. I would like moderators to be replaced by people putting out blocklists. I can still see instance moderation to deal with laws and simply the philosophy of the instance provider. would love community tagging or something so you could look at all communities about table top rpgs or video games or such and block the same if you don't like sports or memes or religion or such.

[–] ComradeMiao@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Are you him? That dude has 13 followers

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

I have heard from a few people that tried mastodon and really gave it a shot, but something about the interface didn’t jive. I’ve never been interested in microblogging, so I don’t have an opinion of my own.