What's even better is him thinking he's not going to be in prison long because Trump is going to win the next election and pardon him. My brother, there's a greater chance of Trump becoming your cell mate.
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Yeah... Even if Trump wins there's no way he remembers or cares about anyone involved in Jan 6.
These guys are way more screwed than they realize.
Trump is a narcissist who cares about image and the cheers of crowds. If pardoning J6 traitors gets him that, he will do it.
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It's true he doesn't give a damn about these people but they're useful for his scam. He's already said he'll pardon people and will continue to say it because it suits the narrative he's pushing and what his base wants to hear.
The problem is he is toxic and will only get more so as his legal issues turn into jail time so it's unlikely he'll win election. If he were smart he'd drop out and secure a pardon from a more electable GOP nominee in return for endorsement. But he won't. So it seems that these proud boy / oathkeeper idiots are likely to be spending a long time behind bars.
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Unfortunately, it could happen.
Most of the country is dealing with a 30% to 50% cost of living increase, and they're going to blame Biden for it. Trump got elected the first time because 6,000,000 were foreclosed upon when Obama was president.
It's possible, but as much as people are exhausted with Biden, nothing would get blue to turn out to vote like another chance of Trump. Blue would vote for a tent full of mosquitoes if it meant voting against Trump. Trump supporters have gotten more fanatical, not more numerous. Some of my own family members are currently in orange pill recovery. Not to mention all the Reds that died of COVID denial. Then you factor in young people now eligible to vote skewing blue. The only person I think Trump could beat honestly would be Hillary. Red would show up to vote against her if not for Trump.
That was the argument people made for Hillary's certain victory on Election Day, that the notion of Trump being elected would mean a huge Democratic turnout.
Thing is, people aren't going to give a shit who the candidate of change is when they can't afford their grocery bills, and Trump isn't going to have to lie about how little Biden has done to alleviate people's poverty.
I didn't vote when it was Hillary or Tbag. I hated both. But I'll keep voting to protect against him happening again. It's exactly what the dems are counting on, and it's unfortunately working on me.
Still waiting to see who I'll vote for in primaries, though. My vote only counts there in my state.
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I'm not saying it won't be close. My parents who voted for him complain about how often they get asked to donate to his campaign slash legal fund. I don't think that's a great look if it's about grocery money.
I remember 2016. Bernie bros felt maybe rightfully so that he got shafted in the primary. Many didn't turn out. Trump as obvious of a con man as he was to us, was a successful business man to many centrist voters. I think that illusion has mostly faded. On top of that people on the right were programmed to hate Hillary since the 90s. The vitriol for Trump now is the best shot Biden has, and I think it's enough.
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That would be the ultimate punishment for both of them. They have to deal with each other for the next 22 years.
It's good that he's going away for 22 years. However, the sentencing guidelines called for between 324 to 405 months (27-33 years) so by the Judge's own calculations this is a miscarriage of justice and yet another right wing domestic terrorist is being handled with kid gloves. Fucking disgraceful.
He was an informant right? Distasteful as it is, informing has to be publicly seen as providing a tangible benefit, or future criminals wont talk
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2 decades is 2 decades. And, it's not like when he gets released he'll be hailed as a hero. Trump will be dead, most of his supporters will probably be dead of old age or COVID. The rest will be too embarrassed that they voted for him to admit it.
When he gets out he'll be 60. Having spent decades in prison, he won't be able to retire, and will probably live out the rest of his life working menial jobs that hire ex-felons until he dies in obscurity.
Sentences can include upward and downward departures from the guidelines based on the circumstances of the case. It's also important to remember that the guidelines are non-binding on judges.
So it's like the guidelines are just guidelines?
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Couldn't have happened to a prouder boy
Federal informant, and still get 22 years?? Congrats on playing yourself, Ricky!
That's a long time to fester in a place where they love rats.
Supposedly it's a lower sentence than the sentencing guidelines allow (according to others in this thread anyway.) So maybe it did count.
That said, Chairman of the Proud Boys? There's a limit to what "I was cooperating with the FBI the whole time" can buy you if you're the reason the crimes are being committed.
My understanding was that the informant bit didn't really help him out because he stopped being an informant and then the January 6th riots happened.
So he'd stopped supplying them with information before he then committed treason. So it isn't as if they just weren't appreciative of the information supplied, the information supplied had nothing to do with why he was arrested.
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LOL GET FUKT TRAITOR!
Traitors only get 20 years? Dang, soft punishment for treason, but at least it's something eh.
Don't think you understand what 20 years in prison looks like.
I don't either, but it sure would ruin my life
Guys losing 1/3 of his adult life, and won't get out of prison before his 60s. I'm extremely anti-j6, but 22 years seems like a nice hefty sentance to me
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"Only" 20 years? There can be whatever number and people will still say it is too little
Historically, people who attempt to overthrow their government get death. Hell, they still execute Guy Fawkes symbolically every year. And all we do is put them up in prison for 20 years? We've gone soft.
they still execute Guy Fawkes symbolically every year. And all we do is put them up in prison for 20 years
Yeah but in reality the UK doesn't have the death penalty for any crime anymore, including treason.
Meanwhile the US regularly executes people for a single murder.
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Yes, and civilized societies are trying to get away from that kind of barbarism.
Also it's not as if it's 20+ years in a (Insert name of progressive European country) prison. It's going to be a hell.
Finally, no risk of martyrdom. Just saying.
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May he die from an embarrassing and uncomfortable medical condition exactly 5 minutes before release.
Something already rotted his brain years ago. Idk if he'd even notice.
Good. Fuck that guy.
Should be 222 years. Rot in cell, traitor.
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