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Donald Trump’s 2024 campaign has reignited fears among undocumented migrants with promises of “mass deportations” and migrant communities are bracing for uncertainty and a new wave of nativism.

His administration plans to target those deemed public safety or national security threats, potentially reinstating workplace raids and using military resources.

Advocates warn that “collateral arrests” could sweep up migrants without criminal records.

Many, like “Dreamers” protected under DACA, fear family separations, while others, such as Carlos in NYC, hope Trump’s economic policies might benefit them.

"A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too," said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.

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[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 37 points 6 days ago (3 children)

To trump, every immigrant is a criminal.

Saying "the legal ones are welcome" is a smokescreen.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 6 days ago

"The legal ones are welcome" is the "there will be exceptions for rape and incest" of anti-immigration rhetoric. It was always a lie meant to placate those with a few remaining shreds of a conscience.

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Except his wife, I'm sure. She's one of the "good ones".

[–] masterbaexunn@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Don't forget about first lady elonia

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Who did you think I meant?

[–] masterbaexunn@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Lmao touché

[–] dch82@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

Nah he is telling the truth, he will simply change the law to make most immigrants illegal.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 30 points 6 days ago

Do they not realize that he and his core audience believe the greatest crime a person can commit is not be born white?

[–] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 19 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Like the German version of Nazis before them, they aren't coming for their biggest target first. They're coming for their political opposition, the "abortionists", the atheists, the drug users, the mentally ill...

RFK Jr.:

"I’m going to create these wellness farms where they can go to get off of illegal drugs, off of opiates, but also illegal drugs, other psychiatric drugs, if they want to, to get off of SSRIs, to get off of benzos, to get off of Adderall, and to spend time as much time as they need — three or four years if they need it— to learn to get reparented, to reconnect with communities,"

Re-education camps, huh.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Nazism 2: The Brainworm Boogaloo

Genuinely going to be interesting to see how these fuckwads manage anything, not just this fascism bullshit. Like honestly, at least most of the higher ranked Nazi officials were pretty intelligent (albeit evil.)

[–] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

reparented

What?

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

Oh yes, just "the bad hombres". /s

So, the leopards are coming for the faces, huh? Who would've guessed?

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 6 days ago

Seeing a lot of voting blocks which apparently were clueless as to what they were voting for. The leopards won't care.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 days ago

Bender laugh.jxl

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Good luck with that. If you voted for him you're an even more gullible dipshit than seems possible.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 7 points 6 days ago (7 children)

It is absolutely disgusting how many people are letting their disappointment and fear turn into vindictiveness and anger.

They're undocumented immigrants. By definition they didn't vote for him, and you should really do some introspection to figure out why this is the first thought you had.

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Naturalized immigrants, who do vote, often have family members and/or friends that are now on the chopping block. A lot of them voted for Trump thinking they were getting rid of the "bad" immigrants.

[–] KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Fascists also tend to take a "kill them all, let God sort them out" approach to things like this.

Here legally but the wrong shade of brown? Maybe your English is too accented? "Don't worry the arrest is just preventative, once they prove they're here legally (from the camp, with no resources, assistance, or access to their documentation) they'll be returned to their community."

Except they won't. Oopsie, gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette.

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Some people talk like we didn't see this shit play out 90 years ago.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Centrists would rather blame people who cannot even vote than admit that moving to the right has failed.

[–] FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (5 children)

If someone voted or prefers for bad stuff to affect the whole country, then I see nothing wrong with preferring them to be the one to personally experience it.

If 51/100 people voted to throw a random citizen into a volcano to make God happy, I would hope that the person that gets thrown in is one of those 51 people, and not one of the other 49.

If someone can't vote because but still holds harmful views, it doesn't make them any less deserving of finding out they are wrong. If you wish harm on others, I'm not going to coddle you when you're sad you personally got harmed.

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[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Any of these people who think Trump gives a damn about citizen status is a absolute moron who'se never paid attention to anything he said or did about immigration. He's a white supremacist and will push for policies that align to that. Illegals will get deported, but any excuse to revoke or ignore legal status of other non-whites will be aggressively pursued. He's already established concentration camps in his first term, despite those people being legal asylum seekers, and you can bet he'll do that again. And if his administration can't find legal means to remove them from the country they are going to find more excuses for brutal treatment with "unfortunate loss of life to those who don't cooperate fully"

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Leopards like all kinds of faces.

[–] PetteriPano@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The article left me confused.

How does one pay income tax and file taxes while undocumented? Wouldn't you need a social security number, and hence be documented?

Could I create an imaginary person to file taxes for?

[–] lilcs420@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Anyone can go to a ss office and get a tax id for free. It acts as a ss#

[–] PetteriPano@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

I see.

Seems like an easy thing to fix no matter which direction you take.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They will be only for "criminals"... And then he'll classify anyone with skin darker than a certain tone as an "illegal" committing crime by living in this country, then they'll go on to trans people, then gay people, then "anteefahs!" And so on.. there's a whole poem about it and everything.

This idea that "criminal" is some kind of basic aspect of someone's being rather than being a status wholly controlled by the government, who can impose or remove it at will, is mind-boggling. And also probably explains a lot of how conservatives keep finding themselves in the jaws of the leopard.

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