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Probably should've just asked Wolfram Alpha

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[–] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

It is correct. Half is 3/6 a third is 2/6. So a half is one third larger than 1/3

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

LLMs are really fucking bad at math. They're trying to find the statistical close answer, not doing computation. It's rather mind-numbingly dumb.

[–] kahnclusions@programming.dev 6 points 5 days ago

Unfortunately a shockingly large number of people don’t get this… including my old boss who was running an AI-based startup 💀

[–] superkret@feddit.org 39 points 6 days ago (3 children)

one third plus one half of one third is one half.

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Sure, but, what does that have to do with the AI answer? Wait.. Are you an AI?

[–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I think thats an issue with AI, it has been so much trained on complex questions that now when you ask a simple one, it mistakes it for a complex one and answers it that way

[–] sping@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 5 days ago

The issue is it's an LLM. It puts words in an order that's statistically plausible but has no reasoning power.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's auto-complete. It knows that "4" is the most common substring to follow "2 + 2" in its training. It's not actually doing addition.

Can i out pendant you?

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 34 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Now ask it if a Third-of-a-Pound burger is bigger than a Quarter Pounder

[–] quant@leminal.space 5 points 6 days ago

Did Google train Gemini on American dataset?

[–] Voyajer@lemmy.world 34 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ironically the one thing computers are normally good at.

[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (3 children)

This is very clearly an example of bad AI, but maybe it was trying (and failing) to convey this?

Basically, 1/3 + 1/9 + 1/27 + 1/81 + ... + 1/3^n = 1/2.

Probably not. But maybe.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I’m thinking it’s trying to say:

(2/6) + (1/6) = (3/6) = (4/6) - (1/6)

But either in “colloquial English for those who want to give other people aneurysms” or “colloquial English for those trying to sound smarter but aren’t”

Basically that the degree of difference between a half and a third is the same degree of difference between a half and two thirds- and that degree of difference is “one part”.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's not trying to say either of them.

It's just guessing what word to say next, given the previous words in the context.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Definitely true, of course,

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Or ⅓ + (⅓*½) = ½

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 4 points 6 days ago

1/3 is 1/2 of 2/3

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"42"

"The answer to life the universe and everything is 42!?"

"Yes, I checked it quite thoroughly."

...

"But what was the actual question?"


Alternatively, garbage in, garbage out.

[–] zlatko@programming.dev 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

considering where the garbage came from, maybe we should stop shitposting :)

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 3 points 6 days ago

That's like having google make a pizza with everything in my fridge then they complain that I also keep the dog's food in there.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I read it as “A third of a third plus a third is a half.” Which makes sense to me. What an I missing?

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

It's wrong. 1/3 + (1/3 * 1/3) = 3/9 + 1/9 = 4/9. It's close though.

However, one third plus one half of a third is correct. 1/3 + (1/2 * 1/3) = 1/3 + (1.5/3 * 1/3) = 1/3 + 0.5/3 = 1.5/3 = 1/2

[–] mister_flibble@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I'm guessing whatever it scraped to generate this was intended for divvying up food rather than doing actual math. 1/3 plus a third of a third is close enough to a half if you're talking about portioning out pizza or leftovers or what have you.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

divvying up food rather than doing actual math.

divvying up - dividing food into equal proportions - is math.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago

Yep, the difference between .444... And .5 is only .0555...

Who notices 5 nintieths of something? That's going to be within the error of sloppy measuring anyways

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What an I missing?

basic arithmetic? .33 + .33 doesn't = .5

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Guess that makes two of us. More like .11 + .33 doesn’t = .5

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago

I was thinking the same thing.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe the intent is to make people even dumber. It’s just misinformation all the way down.

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Wouldn't even be surprised at this point. It seems the system is intentionally designed to discourage critical thinking and apparently knowing how to do math properly is too close for comfort now.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Someone I know had an old friend on their Facebook timeline say that schools should be reformed and don’t need classes like algebra. Then they proceeded to list fields kids could receive training for instead… and all of them required math of some sort.

[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 6 days ago

I don't even look at the AI result. I scroll right past. That's the thing, if it's bullshit 50% of the time, and you can't always tell like you can here, then it's bullshit 100% of the time, and it's useless, just taking up screen real estate.

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