To protect the treats
I'm not kidding at all
The open embrace of imperial violence to maintain one's own personal lifestyle will be an increasingly popular position as material conditions deteriorate: Treatlerism
this post was submitted on 14 Nov 2024
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I'd argue this is the third tenet of the evergreen "life, liberty, and 'the pursuit of happiness'"
The pursuit of my happiness even at the cost of your life and liberty
Basically the justification for bombing Yemen, “they’re threatening the sea lanes and international shipping!!”
Nevermind that they are doing a targeted embargo to stop a literal genocide, the specter of treat stoppage is used as justification for violence in response.
They're sitting on all "our" clean water.
This one is also my guess. Water and viable farmland.
"They make the nation weak" will be for targeting internal minorities, and we'll use the regular "sorry, wrong race" when fighting Russia and China. In other words, same as always.
"their trans ideology will corrupt the kids!"
mcrib out of stock
there isn't enough food and water
Never mind why
"Lifeboat Ethics" probably wont be in full swing until the late 2030s, and the West definitely has a few genocides it can do before then...
Probably "FAFO" "only 60% of them voted for Democrats" "I didn't see them care at all when The Ukranian Genocide was happening in 2022"
"We did the last one and things ended up fine for us."
They won't need a reason.
Because Xi finally hears our prayers:
I vote for genocide on all the liberals who posted trolley memes in the last few months.
if a bird flu epidemic coincides with the mass deportations it might happen extremely soon, sorry the vaccines have to go to real amerikkkans and also you must be deported during an epidemic just how things are
i think that there's still plenty of mileage left on the good old fashioned "they're terrorists" excuse that worked this time around.
“for science!” Is the justification for desecrating Hawaiian sacred sites in Hawaii
We cant let more people in to a sinking lifeboat.
In order of most likely/immidiate:
Invade Mexico to secure the border and fight the cartel, in reality just an excuse to round up everyone who doesn't speak English in a Guantanamo 2.0 right on the border while doing the same 
on random Mexican schools and bars/markets "owned by the cartel" or some shit.
Next if somehow US goes to war with China you can absolutely expect Asian concentration camps.
Then inevitably I don't see the US surviving climate change without doing the whole "cleaning the cities" first. At first it will be homeless and drug addicts. Then it will be LGBTQ and in the end it will be camps for climate migrants between states e.g Florida.
It's really always just us vs. them. That principle encapsulates all the reasons you listed.
Our benevolent humanitarian intervention vs. their unprovoked, brutal war of aggression. It's really just the meme.
We always mean good, they are pure evil, so we had to kill them all. We didn't intend to kill all those women and children, it's their fault.
What's amazing is how many people actually, really believe that, even with college degrees and all that.
I think it all follows the same structure. There's an imagined wholeness and peace that was beset by something alien, eliminating that alien threat will get us back to how things were. In case of Israel for example, things were great before October 7th and then something was introduced and we need to eliminate it. The imagined wholeness is always a fascistic nostalgia for a state that never was, and the alien threat element is a scapegoat for the problems they don't wanna face. Genocide is the fascistic structure taken to its limit. We find this now in Trump's rhetoric about how things were great before the alien emigrants and how getting rid of them will turn us into this imagined state of wholeness and belonging, it's always scapegoating and focusing internal issues on one group in order to avoid facing them.
oh god, i read the title without the next and was very concerned for a second there
"Because we CAN and its FUN!"
4chan won, they're going to go full mask off.
China probably gonna genocide global warming ig...but at what cost???
Whoopsie doodle
Plenty of Christians in Gaza, so these Christian Nationalists have a different justification. We all know this, but I guess the pedant [or person who screamed at his dad who was really chill with a hospital getting bombed] in me feels the need to point this out.
I think they were potentially referring to Native or Indigenous American genocides in the Americas. When the Spanish and Portuguese Catholics came they justified enslaving and genociding the natives under the justification from the Spanish monarch at the time that basically Catholics (interestingly of any race/ethnic group) were not allowed to suffer under slavery or be slaughtered... but non-Catholics weren't protected under this decree/law/whatever it was.
This actually is credited with the "invention" of racism as we know it now days. If anyone could theoretically convert to Catholicism and escape slavery, that was bad for the slavers. So they slowly moved over to a race-based, ethnicity-based system of chattel slavery where one's ancestry determined one's place in the world forever with no chance of upward mobility. Obviously the English and other first European settlers in what became the United States took the racism to the inevitable maximum endpoint and now over 150 years out from the formal abolishment of chattel slavery the effects of the racist systems still remain.
Anyway, I think if the reference was to Gaza or Palestine the more correct statement would be "because they aren't Jewish." Because that's ultimately the "problem" for the state of Israel and their pursuit of a permanent Jewish ethnic/religious majority. Palestinians could believe in Hinduism or Christianity or whatever else but at the end of the day the "issue" is they aren't Jewish. Just like white supremacists are concerned only with white/non-white dynamics. Acknowledging this also demonstrates why the "it's an ancient war!" idiots are dead wrong. Well, another way of demonstrating that fact. It has nothing to do with what they are and everything to do with what they are not. Again, the same as white supremacy. You're either white or you aren't. You're in the protected oppressor group or you aren't
"Those damn Mexicans won our drug war!"