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[–] rando895@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

Fyi, your seatbelt buckle should be able to smash a window in an emergency

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

In the US there are nine investigations involving the Tesla Model Y, ranging from “unexpected brake activation” to “sudden unintended acceleration,” according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

Nice

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Expect those investigations to quietly go away or turn up nothing in about two months from now.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 minutes ago (1 children)

I doubt it as that would be a very bad look

[–] liuther9@feddit.nl 1 points 5 minutes ago
[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

"when a crash disabled its electronic doors."

Female AI voice: Please stay in your seats with your seat belts on until Elon has been notified of this incident.

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Who could see this coming, other than literally everybody

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

Find a good lawyer and sue the living shit out of Tesla and "Leon." I agree with the majority of the comments.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 41 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

what a metaphor for America

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Well they don't say where it was but I'm assuming it's Canada since a Canada post employee saved one by smashing the window with a big pole so she could crawl out.

[–] hefty4871@lemmy.ca 8 points 18 hours ago

It happened in downtown Toronto.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

with a bonus nonmetaphorical Musk tie-in.

[–] GarlicToast@programming.dev 112 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Killed by the department of efficiency

[–] CPMSP@midwest.social 43 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's an apt analogue for what we should all expect from the DOGE; burning to death while everyone watches in terror.

[–] Manalith@midwest.social 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Holy fuck, I never registered that that was the acronym for it.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 19 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, it was the whole point.

When Trump first said that, I wondered why the hell he's talking about Musk asking for a position title that never existed, and then he tweeted out some BS AI gen of him with the title 'DOGE' on a nameplate in front of him.

He basically is a 13 year old who never grew up.

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

This reminds me... I need a glass breaking hammer for safety in my non Tesla car.

[–] PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They might all have one but if not, get one that has a seat belt cutter on it. And keep it in the front console, not anywhere in the back or in the glove compartment.

I knew someone (an acquaintance, we weren't close) who died in a crash because their seatbelt got stuck and they couldn't get out. They had one of those cutter hammer combos but it was in the back seat. Absolutely nightmarish.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

My dad was driving a truck full of pigs back in the 70s. He was driving with 2 friends in a very heavy rain. They were crossing a shitty Mexican bridge when they lost traction and went off into the river upside down. The river/channel was narrow so they doors wouldn't open. They managed to break the windshield and escape. None of the pigs survived. But neither the pigs nor my dad or friends were wearing seatbelts.... because Mexico and 1970's, reasons, etc. I mean the truck was a Datsun and those things did not have seatbelts installed from what I recall.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

I ride my bicycle in traffic. I find the differences in our perceived risk profiles funny.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 13 points 19 hours ago

Ah when you try to reinvent the the wheel, fail, and then kill people with it

[–] aeharding@vger.social 58 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In my neck of the woods a couple weeks ago five people burned to death in a Tesla. Apparently called 911 from inside the car too. No national news on this either.

https://www.veronapress.com/townnews/highway/update-on-nov-1-town-of-verona-crash-that-killed-five-people/article_39070b78-9ad8-11ef-8de9-a7707b602caa.html

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I can't believe there isn't an NHTSA regulation about manual egress from an unpowered vehicle. This is just bonkers.

[–] rando895@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, imagine if the air brakes failed on a transport truck and instead of them defaulting to on, they no longer worked...

Or if your Anti-lock braking system defaulted to no brakes instead of brakes without Anti-lock

Or if the power goes out an elevator just falls to the ground

Or if.....

[–] Undearius@lemmy.ca 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

When I rode as a passanger in a Tesla Model 3, the owner told me not to use the big pull handle because it was the manual release, and instead to use the button at the top of the grab bar.

I don't know about the other models but the manual release was a more obvious way to open the door than the intended way.

[–] DiagnosedADHD@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (13 children)

There are manual releases but they're hidden. They need to be more obvious because these cars are rented to people and obviously the owners aren't taking the time to figure out where they're at.

I would also think just having secondary power packs in each door would help in the event power is cut to ensure the doors can continue to function for a few minutes while also a speaker could explain how to use the emergency release if none of the doors are working.

All this added complexity and cost isn't worth it to me, manual doors just make sense for so many reasons.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 35 points 23 hours ago

Or, how about this: it’s a door, have it work like every other car door for the last 70 years.

Redesigning stuff to make it “cool” and “futuristic” is fucking stupid and is clearly not safe. Doors have handles, the handles are pulled to open the door. Keep it simple.

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[–] Blackmist 74 points 1 day ago (18 children)

This is what it says on their website. Hope you've got the link handy if you're in a crash, and also that you're not in one that doesn't have this...

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

make everything electronic because Elon thinks it is super cool

put very inefficiently placed manual overrides because it was a bad idea

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 22 points 22 hours ago

Not all Model Y vehicles are equipped with a manual release for the rear doors.

I think I see a problem.

Also: that's waaaay too many steps for an emergency. Imagine trying to dismantle the door trim when you have a concussion.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 41 points 1 day ago (6 children)
[–] Blackmist 79 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Look it's very simple if you get in a crash and are on fire.

Stop. Drop. Roll. Remove the mat from the bottom of the rear door pocket. Press the red tab to remove the access door. Pull the mechanical release cable forward. Remember that not all Model Y vehicles are equipped with a manual release for the rear doors. Die.

Rolls right off the tongue. If you're still in trouble call 0118 999 88199 9119 725 3.

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[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is what it looks like when they're legally forced to do something, but still don't want to do it, and their customers are idiots who can afford to pay for redundant features.

So you know, goverment inefficiency. /s

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Yeah but mechanical car door handles aren't "Cool." You don't want to have a car that isn't cool, right?

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[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 46 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What fucking idiot builds fail-deadly electric door controls into a very flammable car

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 30 points 1 day ago

Anything owned by Muskrat

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

"For god's sake call customer service!!!!"

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