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The rest of Europe doesn’t seem to agree. So you can shut the fuck up, Orban.

[–] Herman@mastodon.world 40 points 4 days ago (1 children)

@Sunshine You can always rely on Orban to weaken the European positions.

I just hate the way they write headlines. They know people skim the absolute surface so why do they write , says terrible person

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Europe doesn't need America to defend Ukraine mr. liar.

[–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

What I fear is that he's technically right - because he'll use Hungary's position as an EU member to tear up and otherwise interfere with EU attempts to fund Ukraine (something he's not able to do to the US) and do it well enough that Ukraine's position in it's war of self-defense is seriously compromised.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The other countries can just sign other agreements outside of the EU framework to bypass Hungary. Or maybe they will grow a pair, kick Hungary out of Schengen and make the border crossing painful enough to crash Hungarian exports.

[–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hmm. Could they legally kick Hungary out of Schengen without its approval?

Agreements outside of the EU framework - now that is indeed a clever workaround. I seem to recall similar maneuvers during the Greek financial crisis when the UK wouldn't agree to things.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Since Hungary is letting russians in unchecked amidst a wave of sabotage and terrorist acts by russian agents, they can use article 29 of Schengen Border Code to suspend them.

TIL! Yep, that gives the EU exactly what's needed to suspend them from Schengen.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

That's been dismantled already. He already tried it and failed. EU managed to work something that doesn't need Hungary approval to be done. It was a small step toward confederacy, which is is a nice turn of event if you ask me.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 4 points 3 days ago

Putin's mouthpiece say what?

[–] brap@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why does he look AI generated in this image?

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Evil rots the body.