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[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 37 points 3 months ago

I think you guys are misunderstanding what Brits mean by that... They value both very little.

[–] Worx@lemmynsfw.com 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Kind of a weird question IMO. I don't even think animal lives are worth the same as animal lives. Is a single deer's life the same as a single ant's life?

I consider myself to be kind and thoughtful towards people and animals -- I'll save snails or worms that I find while gardening, but I also will kill mosquitos that are inside my house, and move spiders outside where they will potentially die.

This isn't even getting into "special" animals like pets

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

... but I also will kill mosquitos that are inside my house, and move spiders outside where they will potentially die.

huh, i just let the spiders be and they take out mosquitos and other bugs for me. we're symbiotico, that way.

[–] Worx@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 3 months ago

I'm scared of / uncomfortable with spiders, so they're not allowed inside

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Don't particularly love spiders, but I'll never kill one, even in my house.

[–] gloriousspearfish@feddit.dk 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I would also answer "Human lives are worth the same as animal lives", simply because Humans are animals.

Never trust the answers to questionnaires with such basic mistakes.

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, I'd like to see the results from the question : I have a gun pointed at your long time childhood friend and one pointed at this cow, now is this cow's life worth the same as your friends life?

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have a gun pointed at your dog and another pointed at a guy that's going around eating people's pets...

You are mixing the rational component of the question in general with the emotional attachments of particular situations. This kind of "I know it in my heart" drive is the same that drives things like racism and xenophobia.

[–] MartianSands@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Their point still works though, just reword it for less unnecessary baggage if you prefer.

Do you press the button which saves some random human somewhere in the world, or the button which saves some random cow? I'm pretty sure most people choose the human

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Most people would also press a button that will save a random human of their country over a random human from another country. Does that mean people have different value depending on which country they are from?

[–] awth13@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What if your childhood friend is the cow and the other entity at gunpoint is an unfamiliar human?

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 2 points 3 months ago

The cow of course, fuck that person.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

A better comparison would be if the human in question was a random dude you pulled off the streets. If this was a cow that I grew up with and shared a bond with, then yeah, I'd obviously pick the cow over some dude I don't know. If it's a childhood friend versus a random cow I don't know? Same thing but in reverse.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You know what it means, though.

[–] gloriousspearfish@feddit.dk 0 points 2 months ago

True. But I would never answer a survey based on my presumed understanding of the surveyors intentions. I would always answer exactly on the wording in the question.

If you answer on what you think the question means, and not as it is written, you throw a lot of noise into the statistics.

[–] amzd@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Then why do they kill and eat them

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Because humans are comically inconsistent and morally bankrupt. The history of our species is basically slavery, factory farms, and HOA’s.

[–] amzd@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] So_zetta_slowpoke@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But if I do that, there'd probably be a big ceremony saying I'm a hero and I'd have to shake people's hands 😰

[–] amzd@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Which animals hands do you think you’d need to shake?

[–] So_zetta_slowpoke@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

My dog, who is a very good boy

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 6 points 3 months ago

Interesting (or, perhaps, expected) that the more progressive/left leaning demographics correlate with a higher proportion valuing human and animal life equally. Sort of makes sense and I'm glad to see it.

[–] baggins@beehaw.org 4 points 3 months ago

My cat is worth more than a lot of humans.

Seriously, why no Liberal or Green voters?

[–] gedhrel@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

The search term you're after is NRS social grade. It's a UK demographics thing.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What the heck are C2de and abc1-households?

[–] gedhrel@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'll try again in reply to the roght comment: "NRS social grade" is a UK demographics thing.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

I didn't know that. Thanks for clarification!

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

At least the Tories like somebody, right?

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago

Animal welfare was actually a field they were quite progressive on, iirc.

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

The age trend makes this graph worthy of uplifting news community (as much as I don't like it).

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 1 points 3 months ago

I'm curious about where they draw the line

Me personally its between dogs and rabbits.

[–] conorm -1 points 3 months ago

delusion at it's finest, humans are supposedly the smartest beings on this planet and yet this proportion of them are wasting their heads worrying about their former burgers' life, if the animals were meant to be worth as much as us, they would have developed metalworking by now