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[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 37 points 3 weeks ago

I think you guys are misunderstanding what Brits mean by that... They value both very little.

[–] Worx@lemmynsfw.com 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Kind of a weird question IMO. I don't even think animal lives are worth the same as animal lives. Is a single deer's life the same as a single ant's life?

I consider myself to be kind and thoughtful towards people and animals -- I'll save snails or worms that I find while gardening, but I also will kill mosquitos that are inside my house, and move spiders outside where they will potentially die.

This isn't even getting into "special" animals like pets

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

... but I also will kill mosquitos that are inside my house, and move spiders outside where they will potentially die.

huh, i just let the spiders be and they take out mosquitos and other bugs for me. we're symbiotico, that way.

[–] Worx@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

I'm scared of / uncomfortable with spiders, so they're not allowed inside

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Don't particularly love spiders, but I'll never kill one, even in my house.

[–] gloriousspearfish@feddit.dk 24 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I would also answer "Human lives are worth the same as animal lives", simply because Humans are animals.

Never trust the answers to questionnaires with such basic mistakes.

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah, I'd like to see the results from the question : I have a gun pointed at your long time childhood friend and one pointed at this cow, now is this cow's life worth the same as your friends life?

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I have a gun pointed at your dog and another pointed at a guy that's going around eating people's pets...

You are mixing the rational component of the question in general with the emotional attachments of particular situations. This kind of "I know it in my heart" drive is the same that drives things like racism and xenophobia.

[–] MartianSands@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Their point still works though, just reword it for less unnecessary baggage if you prefer.

Do you press the button which saves some random human somewhere in the world, or the button which saves some random cow? I'm pretty sure most people choose the human

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Most people would also press a button that will save a random human of their country over a random human from another country. Does that mean people have different value depending on which country they are from?

[–] awth13@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What if your childhood friend is the cow and the other entity at gunpoint is an unfamiliar human?

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 2 points 3 weeks ago

The cow of course, fuck that person.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago

A better comparison would be if the human in question was a random dude you pulled off the streets. If this was a cow that I grew up with and shared a bond with, then yeah, I'd obviously pick the cow over some dude I don't know. If it's a childhood friend versus a random cow I don't know? Same thing but in reverse.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

You know what it means, though.

[–] amzd@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Then why do they kill and eat them

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Because humans are comically inconsistent and morally bankrupt. The history of our species is basically slavery, factory farms, and HOA’s.

[–] amzd@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] So_zetta_slowpoke@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But if I do that, there'd probably be a big ceremony saying I'm a hero and I'd have to shake people's hands 😰

[–] amzd@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Which animals hands do you think you’d need to shake?

[–] So_zetta_slowpoke@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

My dog, who is a very good boy

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 6 points 3 weeks ago

Interesting (or, perhaps, expected) that the more progressive/left leaning demographics correlate with a higher proportion valuing human and animal life equally. Sort of makes sense and I'm glad to see it.

[–] baggins@beehaw.org 4 points 3 weeks ago

My cat is worth more than a lot of humans.

Seriously, why no Liberal or Green voters?

[–] gedhrel@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

The search term you're after is NRS social grade. It's a UK demographics thing.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

At least the Tories like somebody, right?

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago

Animal welfare was actually a field they were quite progressive on, iirc.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What the heck are C2de and abc1-households?

[–] gedhrel@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'll try again in reply to the roght comment: "NRS social grade" is a UK demographics thing.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago

I didn't know that. Thanks for clarification!

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

The age trend makes this graph worthy of uplifting news community (as much as I don't like it).

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

I'm curious about where they draw the line

Me personally its between dogs and rabbits.

[–] conorm -1 points 2 weeks ago

delusion at it's finest, humans are supposedly the smartest beings on this planet and yet this proportion of them are wasting their heads worrying about their former burgers' life, if the animals were meant to be worth as much as us, they would have developed metalworking by now