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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 39 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Cool, crash the price of oil right be fore the election.

Biden is trying to make Harris lose. He hates her for taking his job.

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bibi for sure is. Biden's barely functional.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 months ago

Bibi is definitely trying to make Harris lose, but I think Biden is still functional enough before 5pm to hold a grudge.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 2 months ago

Biden's bitter at people realizing he's too old. Pretty sure he was hoping to go out like feinstein.

Bibi just wants someone he can influence with shiney things rather than needing to pull strings.

What a fantastic democracy/republic we have in the USA 😭

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

If anyone wants, here's an extremely optimistic 2009 Brookings Institute white paper on how various hostile actions against Iran would play out based off numbers and history.

Chapter 3 analyses a "boots on the ground" invasion (the occupation would require a draft), Chapters 4-6 analyze American and Israeli airstrikes. Neither of them expect Iran to employ masses of drones or close the strait, and they consider ballistic missiles against US assets unlikely.

While they have an extreme western bias, there's no way you can twist the numbers to look good.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago

This is one psychotic document, jesus

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Chapter 3 analyses a "boots on the ground" invasion (the occupation would require a draft)

Good luck, I'm defecting as soon as they don't have eyes on me.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

It makes it pretty clear how insanely unfeasible a ground invasion of Iran would be even with the most optimistic assumptions.

1.3 million just for the occupation of an 88 million pop country, and that number just comes from other occupations, without taking into consideration the terrain or people or last 50 years of preparation for asymmetrical warfare.

[–] SattaRIP@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Hey, remember when democrats were saying Trump is crazy for trying to start a war with Iran?

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (11 children)

I remember when Democrats gave a fuck about 1 thing. Now they care about 0 things.

Imagine this:

-A democrat who supports genocide.

-A democrat who is championing Trump’s border policy.

That’s where we are now. That’s who democrats are now.

But I’m a ‘tankie’ for pointing that out, I guess.

Have fun explaining your way out of how your supported a candidate who supported genocide and deportations, liberals. ❤️

[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yep. And when Kamala wins the popular vote but loses the electoral college because swing stat voters actually don't support GENOCIDE the Dems won't show a degree of self awareness or accept any responsibility, they will just blame Jill Stein voters

I say let them attack iran. It will be the final thrashing before the American empire collapses completely.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I remember when Democrats gave a fuck about 1 thing.

What's that?

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

I don’t even know, I was just trying to give a little on all that I took. lmfao

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[–] wombat@hexbear.net 34 points 2 months ago

stalin shouldn't have stopped at berlin

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago (16 children)

Iran really should be preemptively striking Israel; I mean Israel is literally drawing up invasion plans.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s called deescalation through escalation.

America supports it when Israel does it, that means it’s okay.

Iran, go right ahead. Lebanon, go right ahead. Hamas, go right ahead.

Israel and America have already stated this is a perfectly valid reasoning. The rules of war go both ways.

Again: If America is the world ethics, these actions are perfectly valid. This is what America does.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is what America does.

Except it isn't. USA does not preemptively attack countries which plan to attack USA, since nobody is doing that. USA wrecks and coups countries because they are either trying to leave the US hegemonic control or the ones that are simply appealing targets for imperialism.

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[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

First ever actual preemptive strike.

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[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

hey, lets do some buddy-buddy attacking sovereign nations with a GENOCIDAL STATE!

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 months ago

Just the thing to endear your party to the electorate before an election. For Republicans, a war actually does this. Not so sure about Democrats.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because the term isn't up yet and taking him down for being unable to perform his duties would be greatly damaging to US optics-based politics.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're right. But how is it not damaging to US optics-based politics to have a dementia addled old man start a war with Iran?

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I don't know, i never seen starting a war being damaging to US politics, it usually gets their numbers up.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Good point. But why does no one care about his pudding brain? I just can't understand. The whole country was like, yeah he's unfit. They after he dropped out no one cares.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

Peak idealism in politics. For some reason they are completely unable to think in a cathegory of system, it's all just comic book to them where colorfully dressed people run around and the rest of the grey world is a background that just happen, no agency, no reason, it just is. So despite having a really clear indication, that is completely identical politics of Biden and Harris they think problem is gone because person is gone. This didn't happen in year or 4, that was trained by long decades.

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[–] Teils13@lemmy.eco.br 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Since i'm in south america, i will grab the popcorn and watch the gringos fighting with brown people for the nth time.

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[–] plinky@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Kamala could invoke 25th, if she doesn't agree with it shrug-outta-hecks

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

if she doesn't agree with it

wtyp

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 months ago

SHUT UP! Why couldn't you let him have that little bit of naivette?

Seriously though, its a damn fine idea, if only the US and the DNC weren't totally bat-shit on this front. Why does a little thing like reality have to be so un-cooperative?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

the party of lesser evil driving the world towards WW3

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[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Biden is as much of a Zionist as Netanyahu

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 2 months ago
[–] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Vice President Joe Biden meets with Israeli Prime Minister

Joe Biden has been demoted to Vice President ?

[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago

According to Fox News, President Obama is still president and so is Traitor Trump. Everyone is president, depending upon who is watching at the moment to stir up one kind of hatred or another.

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