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The International Brotherhood of Teamsters will not issue an endorsement in the presidential election for the first time since 1996, and for only the second time since 1960.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago

Class traitors.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago

Let’s call this what it is, Dems are losing because of their neoliberalism.

Dems don’t fully commit to EU like welfare states, and the half assed approach to progressive policies eats at people’s bottom lines and pocketbooks.

The Republicans promise getting rid of competition which comes from immigrants, so naturally attract the vote of the hopeless and helpless low skill workers, who will get shafted by low wages and benefits which come from Republican policies, but the blame will always go towards racist or culture war distractions. I can’t achieve the American dream because of the gays, the poor, the immigrants, etc.

The independents are truly the worst because they don’t have the sense to ask for what they want and believe someone else will magically make that appear.

America’s only redemption is creating an EU like welfare state. Dems and their weakness is going to cost America the imperialism it has enjoyed since WWII because the Republicans are opportunistic and not patriotic or interested in American ideals.

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 141 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

"Our members want us to endorse someone clearly unfit for the presidency who also would actively work against their interests. So we're just going to sit this one out."

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

Many people are incapable of seeing it this way. So spread the word. Clear communication is one of our weaknesses, let's get better.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 72 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

100%.

A huge chunk of my co-workers are sexist, racist, and absolutely knuckle-dragging morons.

These idiots seem to think that $45 an hour jobs with a pension and healthcare is growing on trees somewhere with how they vote.

One of them is from Venezuela and wears a Punisher/Trump hat. Keep in mind that the punisher would absolutely kick the ever loving shit out of someone like Trump, but if Trump wins, he will be deported!

Stephen Miller wants to deport everyone not white as snow, and shoot those who resist.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 39 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I had an Uber driver from Venezuela. I asked if he would have voted for Maduro, and what he thought of the recent elections in Venezuela. He called Maduro a monster and said Gonzalez was robbed. I asked him who he would vote for here. He said he was thinking of voting for Trump because he was concerned about his taxes going up. I just shook my head.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 16 points 21 hours ago

But you see, Maduro is an unhinged left-wing authoritarian, and trump is an unhinged right-wing authoritarian, so they're very different!

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 18 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

In the comics the real Punisher knows he's insane and tells anyone who idolizes him that they should try to be like Captain America instead.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

And threatened to kill a pair of cops who said they wished they could do shit like he did, very directly.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Stephen Miller looks Arabic to me.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 46 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (3 children)

While 44.3 percent of union members polled between April 9 and July 3 backed Biden compared to 36.3 percent for Trump, polling in the wake of the Republican and Democratic Party conventions found the Teamsters members support Trump over Harris.

In a union-commissioned survey conducted by an independent third party between July 24 and Sept. 15, 59.6 percent of Teamsters members voted to endorse Trump, compared to 34 percent for Harris.

Teamsters members seem to have been dramatically more supportive of Biden than they are of Harris. Hmm.

Don't know if election models, like Five Thirty Eight's or similar, take endorsements as an input, whether that may affect their projection.

[–] ChocoboRocket@lemmy.world 51 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Damn, if I didn't know any better, the teamsters union hate the idea of being led by a woman.

Unless Kamala has a teamsters specific, anti-union agenda completely unique from Joe Biden I'm not aware of?

I'd love to be proven wrong, but Trump has only gotten worse and Kamala is significantly better than Biden - so what's up??

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 39 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
  1. She
  2. Is a non-white
  3. Democrat.

Take your pick

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago

I think it also hurts that she’s not from the labor wing of the democrats unlike Biden.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 18 points 21 hours ago

Harris's weakness with non-college educated white men is well studied and discussed in the polling universe. She does way better than Biden though with young people, women, and all non-white groups

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The lack of an endorsement is a big blow to Trump, who invited O’Brien to be the first Teamsters leader in the union’s 121-year history to speak at the Republican National Convention in July.

Sounds like O'Brien knows that he went a step too far in assuming a Trump win was inevitable and kissing the diaper.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 6 points 18 hours ago

Listen to his speech. He doesn't kiss up he goes up at the RNC and talks about the real needs of the working class (against everything the modern GOP does).

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 22 hours ago

The members have drunk the protectionist flavorade. Harris' economic positions would benefit Americans but it sounds like communism to too many "average" Americans.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 6 points 23 hours ago

Union most synonymous with organized crime doesn't care about who is president this election.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

"Neither major candidate was able to make serious commitments to our union to ensure the interests of working people are always put before Big Business," Teamsters General President Sean O'Brien said in a statement.

He added, "We sought commitments from both [former president Donald] Trump and [Vice President Kamala] Harris not to interfere in critical union campaigns or core Teamsters industries—and to honor our members’ right to strike—but were unable to secure those pledges."

The Teamsters, which represents truck drivers, freight workers and others, held similar meetings with Trump and President Joe Biden when he was still seeking re-election.

On Wednesday, the union released the results of their survey, which was conducted after Biden dropped out of the race. It found that almost 60% of rank-and-file union members preferred to endorse Trump, while 34% backed Harris, according to an electronic member poll. A phone poll indicated similar margins, with 58% supporting Trump and 31% supporting Harris.

"While the Teamsters Executive Board is making no formal endorsement, the hardworking members of the Teamsters have been loud and clear— they want President Trump back in the White House!" said campaign spokesperson Karoline Leavitt in a statement. "These hardworking men and women are the backbone of America and President Trump will strongly stand up for them when he’s back in the White House."^[[1] https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/teamsters-union-declines-endorse-presidential-election-breaking-decade-rcna171711]

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 3 points 15 hours ago

god, that final quote. what a fucking idiot.