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Stephen Miller, Trump advisor, absolutely loses his mind when journalist José María Del Pino asks him where he gets his information about Venezuela's supposed low crimes rates.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 187 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I would kill or die to see American reporters grow a fucking pair and hammer the questions home like this.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 76 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's beautiful. Just stays on point, doesn't let Miller's yelling distract him and keeps asking the right question.

I love how these fucks are happy to throw out numbers as long as there are no follow up questions.

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[–] Mr_Blott 25 points 2 months ago

Jeremy Paxman would've made bank in the US if the politicians weren't actually scared of proper journalists

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

He should be asked this exact same question by other journalists, but maybe add "If you don't know the statistics, just say so."

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 139 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Stephen Miller is a subhuman piece of garbage. He's pretty much directly responsible for every single piece of race-based Executive Action in the Trump White House. He honestly believes he's a true Svengali/Jafar/Puppeteer of people, and regularly flips out when confronted with truth and facts. His own family calls out his Jewish heritage, and he's aligned with White Nationalist groups. Insane.

Good piece on it: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/03/02/how-stephen-miller-manipulates-donald-trump-to-further-his-immigration-obsession

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago

He wants to be the next Goebbels so badly.

[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 119 points 2 months ago (1 children)

THAT'S how you take down a Gish Gallop.

"I don't give a fuck what you're trying to pivot to. Do you trust Maduro's statistics?"

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 69 points 2 months ago

Exactly. This guy just put on a fucking master class on how to not get gas lit. Forming a tenable position is based on progressive and logical steps. When you're all over the fucking map like Miller, you don't have a leg sot stand on. This is doubly true when you cherry pick the facts or don't have facts to begin with.

By not moving from his position, the reporter made Miller look like the shit-bagel he is, AND pissed him the fuck off.

Amazing. Reporter of the fucking year

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 66 points 2 months ago

In summary, Stephen Miller trusts Nicolás Maduro.

Weird.

[–] MelonYellow@lemmy.ca 55 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

4.5 min video of the exchange. Very satisfying watch!

[–] runjun@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Thank you for sharing. I’m quite happy to see that POS get this upset by a question.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 51 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This guy is fucked up in the head... He just keeps making up disgusting lies so heinous that people won't question him.

This is junior high levels of debate fuckery.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

Stephen is a prominent racist in a group consisting of like 99% racists. He's evil. Truly fucked in the head.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Uh, how can you care about facts when I mention DEAD CHILDREN!? ^^/s

[–] Moah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 months ago

Isn't he the one who sent "womp womp" when people asked him about children in cages?

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Miller was so far out of his depth there. It was like a mini replay of the main event.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago

he was so sure he had an argument winner with Maduro sending his criminals to the US, he couldn't let it go.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 38 points 2 months ago (2 children)

We're going to SAVE the CHILDREN by MURDERING them in School!

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Backed into a corner? Don't know how to make an argument? Hey we've all been there. Just say it's about the children! That means you get to win!

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Unless it's about gun control. At that point, it's a fact of life that only America has to deal with. Yay exceptionalism!

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But not the British children?

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Opponents beware...

He's coming

He's coming...

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 35 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Lizard-man: "The facts are..." proceeds to spout inflammatory speculation based on emotions

As someone who's in Aurora a fair bit, I doubt you need me to tell you, but the right-wing stories are bullshit:

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/06/nx-s1-5100765/aurora-police-chief-says-theres-no-evidence-that-venezuelan-gang-took-over-apartment

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Dollars to donuts Republicans are smuggling in violent criminals themselves

Miller is not a sharp mind, he couldn’t flexibly come up with a response to a changing situation and resorted to bullying, which didn’t work either

The reporter wasn’t even that sharp or clever either, which again tells you what you need to know about Miller, he would be mid-level manager somewhere if not for his luck

[–] capital@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The reporter wasn’t even that sharp or clever either

I disagree. Too many people get lead off the path by the MAGA bullshit fire hose. Dude just kept forcing the dipshit back to his question.. over and over.

It makes clear to viewers what Miller is doing and why he turned into a man baby as the video goes on.

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

I think the point was that the reporter was being no more than competent enough to insist on a reply to his question. It looked sharp only compared to milquetoast U.S. reporters who are almost universally afraid to confront anyone for fear of blacklisting.

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

God that was satisfying watching the little rat squirm and get big toddler energy when not allowed to dodge a question and move on with more bullshit lies.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

Watching that chrome dome get shinier and shinier was fantastic.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] bazus1@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I am trusting the fact that Kamela Harris is letting illegal imigrants into this country who are raping and murdering children.
Sir, this is a Wendy's

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Didn’t trump rape a child? And shut down a bill to fund ICE? It must be tough to keep straight when you’re supposed to care about child rape and border security.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Trump actual has raped multiple children and has been sued for forcing 12 and 14 year old human trafficked sex slave children to molest each other while he watched before molesting them also.

Case 5:16-cv-00797-DMG-KS

Thrown out because it didn't state a civil rights claim because it was a civil case since the statue of limitation for criminal charges was passed, if memory serves

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

The right is very good at picking a name and holding it up to "win". They do this because they can't deal with statistics.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I haven't seen Stephen Miller have a meltdown like that since his hairline liquefied and ran down his face

Edit: I guess only Ghouliani's hair ran down his face. Miller just dusted his head with Norelco trimmings

[–] 5paceThunder@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago
[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Copying my comment from another thread:

The right is very good at picking a name and holding it up to "win". They do this because they can't deal with statistics.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

It's also a tactic of bullshitters to say a whole bunch of stuff in series, just put something out there and quickly move on to the next thing, making it sound like they have a lot of substance but hoping the quick change doesn't give anyone much of a chance to pull on any of the threads of what they said or look close enough to realize that there is little to no substance behind any of it.

Ancient Aliens and Alex Jones both also use that.

And it's a pain in the ass to unravel because people who don't want to look more closely and just want to believe think there's a list of things that need to be disproven if you wait and let the speaker finish or don't question him about it directly because the believers don't feel like they have the expertise to rebut counterpoints (so shelve them instead of discarding) and instead just want to go down the list. Which is fair, though it would be nice if they applied that same skepticism to that list of points in the first place.

But this seems like an effective counter for that strategy. Just pick an item on the list that doesn't sound right and keep pulling on that thread with the person that said it on the first place rather than the disciples blindly following. Then they'll see it's not just their lack of expertise getting in the way of arguing back against counterpoints, it's the whole thing lacking any real substance at all.

[–] Raptor_007@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

I love this man so much

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

What a weird little guy.

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