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[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

This looks like a heavy rebrand of the Pine64's Pinecil soldering iron.

[–] potentiallynotfelix@lemdro.id 25 points 3 days ago (4 children)

For 250 dollars. iFixit is turning to the Apple of repair.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That is pricey... However, as someone who has an ifixit toolkit that contains just about every shape and size of screwdriver bit ever imaginable (and several that defy explanation), it has been the most useful tool I have ever purchased. I can't even count how many times I've used it.

And the quality is outstanding.

[–] woodenskewer@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Soldering stations that are fixed to an outlet are also expensive. It's not a cheap tool kit. If it is cheap, it's a garbage iron that will likely do the job but you will struggle.

I'm trying to buy one for work and every station worth considering is easily over 200 dollars US.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'll gladly pay a premium for something that will be "buy it for life" or at least last decades. Phones and computers have inherent obsolescence, but most tools don't. I don't buy chinesium tools, I buy reputed European, American, or Japanese tools, the lifetime stuff.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

same. no more knuckle busters for me. I've got spanners that are 20 years old that I bought, not inherited.

[–] Acters@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Does it matter if the products last longer than an apple product and can likely be repaired?

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[–] lefixxx@lemmy.world 84 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Pinecil is 26$ and has a screen.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You're probably adding $25-35 to that for a USB-C power supply that can handle it, but yes, it's cheaper than this. $50-75 if you want it battery powered.

But yeah, I'm not sure what iFixit is bringing to the market that's better than what exists.

[–] lambda@programming.dev 5 points 3 days ago

The Pinecil uses a standard tip as well. So, you can get cheap ones on aliexpress. That'll pay for it for me tbh.

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[–] mbirth@lemmy.ml 175 points 5 days ago (11 children)

Have they not heard of the TS100 or the Pinecil?

Both run an open-source firmware and work with any USB-C PD battery pack and still allow you to configure the temperature.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 108 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Considering that they sell one of those, I’m going to assume they’ve heard of it. ;)

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

It's very likely existing smart soldering pens were the inspiration.

iFixit even mentions they didn't include a screen like the Pinecil because most people don't actually mess with the settings that much when they are on the go.

[–] mbirth@lemmy.ml 26 points 5 days ago (2 children)

What they probably meant is they didn’t include a screen because this way they can sell their overpriced battery pack.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

It's definitely priced significantly higher than a similar setup from Pine64.

...but it also has some significant advantages and features the Pinecil does indeed lack.

I definitely think the Pinecil is aimed more at hobbyists and this iFixit iron is aimed at people who solder all the time, in other words, not hobbyists.

[–] mbirth@lemmy.ml 17 points 5 days ago (11 children)

Since the Pinecil is running IronOS, it’s just a matter of time for it to also get the fall detection. And apart from the LED ring gimmick, I don’t see any huge advantages over IronOS.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I personally see the PD for USB-C being 100W is a significant advantage as the Pinecil tops at 60W from USB-C and you have to search for a traditional barrel-plug power cord to get it to max out at 88W.

100W through USB-C and not even having a different power option seems pretty useful to me. *shrugs

[–] JiveTurkey@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I regularly power both my ts100 and Pinecil with a Milwaukee M18 battery and the barrel connector this is super convenient. The display is also convenient. The fact that you need the battery to set the temp seems numb and completely negates the USBC convenience because it means you can't use any old USBC power source and still change the temperature. The 100w is also pointless because the other two options already heat incredibly fast and have a higher max temperature.

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[–] mememuseum@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I love my Pinecil V2. It was cheaper than my 40W entry level Weller station and heats up way faster. I run it off my Anker USB power supply and also my Anker USB power bank. The power bank only outputs 30 or 40 watts though so I might upgrade that in the future. High wattage power banks are expensive though :/

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 19 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Those look pretty cool.

But I'm confused about the marketing around the cpu/ram, etc. Does that really matter for a soldering iron? (Serious question, not being snarky).

I get they're using that tech to make it adjustible/smart, but it's a soldering iron, not a pocket computer.

Is there some way those specs genuinely matter? Or is it just to say "we're using the latest tech to provide controls"?

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[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 15 points 4 days ago

This

you’ll need to grab the FixHub Power Station, the company’s new 55Wh battery pack.

Why bother with that when I can use my personal power bank that uses standard easily swappable/replaceable 18650 batteries? (remember those?)

[–] maccentric@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That Pinecil has a 30 day warranty? Not a lot if confidence in the longevity of their product.

[–] fatalicus@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Here in Europe it is sold with a 2 year warranty, but it also cost nearly three times as much (65 euro vs 25,99)

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[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 5 days ago

Have they not heard of the TS100 or the Pinecil?

Of course they have.

An iFixit co-founder has been responding to questions over on Hacker News:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41521919

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[–] forgotmylastusername@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 days ago

So basically a copy of the battery pack T12 devices from China. Well done. You fixed an already fixed problem.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

The Smart Soldering Iron will set you back $80, while the Soldering Station, which includes the soldering iron and the battery pack, costs $250.

Most interesting to me is that they put the display on the soldering station/battery pack thingy instead of the iron itself.

[–] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 8 points 3 days ago

Temperature is measured in Farads.
Very non-standard

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I bought my soldering station with air solderer and iron solderer for about 40$ from AliExpress, the ones with IR bottom heater cost around 90-100$

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[–] anubis119@lemmy.world 35 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Tying a rechargeable battery to a single function device seems off-brand for iFixit.

  • edit, I am wrong. I didn't RTFM. Humble pie is good sometimes.
[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It’s a multi-use battery.

The battery can be used to charge whatever you want. A phone, laptop, headphones, or anything else with USB. Also, the battery is user replaceable and the product repair diagrams are posted online.

IMHO, it looks like they’re practicing what they preach, and it’s all designed for longevity and right to repair.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I just blocked OP, "Ghostal Media", but I liken it more as essentially an adblock

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Look at their post history. They arent a spammer by trade. The article posted does read like a paid review, though. And the other posters here have done similar while offering counterpoints.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago (4 children)

What I want from a battery soldering iron is a field-replaceable 18650 in the handle, not Webserial.

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

Build a 18650 battery bank and plug in a pinecil or ts100. A solder iron with a 18650 would be heavy and uncomfortable for soldering.

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[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Having used an expensive Metcal, I would like someone to develop that level of performance for less. I want the precise thermostat and high quality tips, but I don't solder enough to justify the expense. I am happy to see iFixit driving innovation in this market though. Weller needs some real competition.

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[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I love my ifixit precision screwdriver, so I'd be a fan and would try this out.

The thing is once I switched to a butane iron (portable, hot in 20 seconds, awesome fire) I don't have any interest in anything with a wire coming off of the back of it. battery or no, the wire being in the way is ass and is also crap

edit: maybe it doesnt have a wire?

edit 2: maybe I shoulda read the article before typing? 5 second heat-up time, wow.. seeing as I am a fucking idiot and am also very tired, can someone who is smart tell me if the iron has a battery itself? the pack is for recharging the small battery in the pen?

[–] golden_calf@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It does not have an internal battery but can use any battery pack that can do 100W output.

I pre-ordered this for a few reasons. One, my experience with butane irons was very different than yours I guess. I hated how long they took and how finicky they were. Then I had to find a safe place to put it while it cooled. This has a cap that can handle the high temp with no issue.

When I need a portable iron it's to do small quick soldering with long waits in between. This seems perfect for that.

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