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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)

“Why is this information coming out now?” asked retired FBI agent Daniel Gonzalez, who pursued the Saudi connections for almost 15 years. “We should have had all of this three or four weeks after 9/11.”

Oh, that's a toughie!

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm actually wondering ... was it true that the CIA truly obstructed the FBI, or did the FBI prolly know and could do anything about this already, but prolly let it hapen?

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

In the aftermath of 9/11 I bet the CIA got a very indirect but very clear messages that the Saudis were not to be blamed in any way plus I think it was clear the CIA was was indirectly told to "prove" there was a connection to Iraq even if was as a total lie. Meanwhile it those realities must have been clear to any powerful, intelligent person at the FBI. They must have seen the writing on the wall so they pretended everything was normal for years and years as their agents chased their tails with incomplete data and information and got nowhere.

Once people get to a certain level I think stuff like that is the norm for intelligence and intel communities If you don't you keep your head down, do what your told, and follow the politics - you are in danger of fucking your career and your reputation. And for all their flag waving and their professed love of America - they sure do love their careers, their reputations, and the possibility of getting sweet, sweet sinecure gigs in the private sector.

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If FBI agent Daniel Gonzalez was a relative of mine and I saw him at Thanksgiving sometimes - it would be pretty hard for me not to laugh at him when people asked "How is the 9/11 investigation going?" As the years went on - did he really keep thinking he or anybody at the FBI was going to get anywhere? That's idiocy. People can be such moronic Boy Scouts and refuse to accept reality.

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago

How could Iran do this?

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 month ago

Time to invade Syria or something

[–] Torenico@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's it. Assad has gone way too far now. Time to nuke Yemen.

[–] somename@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago
[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We knew this literally the day 11/9 happened. Practically everybody involved was a Saudi citizen, and what they accomplished wouldn't have been possible without some level of government cooperation.

I guess the news is that we have names, I guess?

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

I think Cheyney immediately flew out to meet the Saudis that afternoon, too, didn't he? Maybe it was on 9/12. Regardless, why would a top official make an unscheduled flight to a foreign country to meet in person, especially since there was a plane hijacking? Why wouldn't they want to talk over the phone?

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Are they~~releasing~~ officializing this fact since the Saudi changed team and joined BRICS?

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

So you're saying we should invade Iraq a third time?

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

No shit, that's what the news reported more or less the day of is what was most likely to have happened. I remember being 10 and asking my parents why we were attacking g Afghanistan if Bin Laden was the prime suspect and he's Saudi. (I had a lot of this news explained to me as it was going, I was vert precocious as a kid when it comes to geopolitics, but not that level)

[–] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago
[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 month ago

I read "assassinated" and went "oh shit, what a plot twist"

[–] Dr_Gabriel_Aby@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

I bet the two officials were King Fahd and Crown Prince Abdullah

[–] NuraShiny@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

Time to throw exactly two people under the bus 20 years later, dust off our hands and call it solved.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago